Foldable/ rollable phone from Motorola

The design of the mobile phones is always a fight between two opposite objectives - portability and usability. The more small and portable the device becomes, the less usable the user interface can be.

You can make the phone screen only that small, until the information displayed on it becomes unreadable. The same goes for the input devices. Make the keyboard small enough, and the user will have a really hard time pressing the correct keys.

Well. Motorola has an interesting idea what to do about that. In a patent application “User Interface System” it describes a concept of mobile phone with rollable display and/or keyboard.

http://www.unwiredview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/motorola-rollable-phone.jpg

Of course, the idea of flexible/rollable screens and keyboards is nothing new. The are quite a few of these gadgets on the market or at least in late prototype stage. The problem with these devices is that flexible/rollable is by definition not rigid. And using the phone with a keypad or display flapping in the wind, is not such a good idea.

But Motorola has found the way around this little problem, by using a reservoir with electrorheological fluid beneath the foldable display or keypad. This fluid becomes a solid material when electric current is applied to it, and then reverts again to fluid state when the electric current disappears.

The phone with either rollable display or keypad will have all it’s working electronics in a solid part, with an enclosure for the flexible part located here as well. In inactive state the flexible part rests in an enclosure.

Whenever the call comes in, or you want to make one, press a button. Electric current is applied, the display rolls out and springs into a solid state, and you use the device as any other mobile phone. Press the button again, and display folds back-in.

To take it even further, both display and keypad can be made flexible. You just put all the necessary electronics into a solid container, with the enclosures for flexible display and keypad. This way you could make matchbox sized mobile mobile phone, which will be as easy to use as any other clamshell.

Looks like an interesting, if pretty far fetched idea, which probably won’t come to life anytime soon.

However, the patent application for rollable phone was filed on the same day (July 24th, 2006) as the original patent applications for this device:

http://www.unwiredview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/motorola-rokr-e8-patent.jpg

Which also seemed pretty far fetched at the time, but looks Motorola E8 ROKR today.

Source: http://www.unwiredview.com/2008/01/25/foldable-rollable-phone-from-motorola

fluid material-nya itu ditaruhnya di mana ya?
agak2 blom nangkep. maksudnya.. the fluid material kan bisa flexible dan solid berdasarkan arus listrik, nah berarti si fluid ini harus ditempatkan dalam material/casing/fascia yang foldable juga kan bearti? nah fascia-nya itu materialnya apa?

lalu penerapan dalam E8 nya samapai sejauh mana?

Gw suka ma keypad qwerty.
Tp motorola rek..., mau na merk lain.
Again, tret ini ga dibaca palingan ma roX. Brani taruhan w760 nih gw...

yah mau buat HP keren seperti apapun kalau strategi pemasarannya nggak diperbaiki Motorola sulit untuk bangkit.

Walau bagaimanapun tetap gw dukung deh Motorola, cuma lagi nggak ada anggaran buat ganti HP sekarang.

Tapi kan langkah besar juga karena udah mematenkan ini.

USER INTERFACE SUBSTRATE FOR HANDSET DEVICE HAVING AN AUDIO PORT

Abstract

A substrate (56) for a handset device defines at least a portion of an audio port (274) and may include a keypad contact array (108) on the substrate (56) and a display electrode pattern (604) on the substrate (56). A display (52) is coupled to the substrate and is configured to at least partially surround the audio port portion on the substrate. In addition, in one example, the substrate (56) for a handset device (10) may include a first surface and a second surface. A keypad contact array (108) and a display electrode pattern (604) may be included on the first surface (96) of the substrate (56). The display (52) may be operatively coupled to the display electrode pattern (604).
Inventors: Emmert; Steve C.; (Crystal Lake, IL) ; Boos; John P.; (Grayslake, IL)
Correspondence Name and Address:

MOTOROLA INC.;C/O VEDDER PRICE KAUFMAN & KAMMHOLZ, P.C.
222 N. LASALLE ST
CHICAGO
IL
60601
US

Assignee Name and Adress: Motorola, Inc.
Schaumburg
IL

Serial No.: 851673
Series Code: 11
Filed: September 7, 2007

U.S. Current Class: 379/433.07; 348/E5.001; 379/110.01; 455/575.1; 455/90.3
U.S. Class at Publication: 379/433.07; 379/110.01; 455/575.1; 455/090.3; 348/E05.001
Intern'l Class: H04M 1/00 20060101 H04M001/00; H04B 1/00 20060101 H04B001/00; H04B 1/38 20060101 H04B001/38
Claims


1. A substrate for a handset device comprising: at least a portion of an audio port defined by the substrate; and a display operatively coupled to the substrate wherein the display is configured to at least partially surround the audio port portion on the substrate.

2. The substrate of claim 1 wherein the display is an electrophoretic display.

3. The substrate of claim 1 wherein the portion of the audio port is comprised of a plurality of openings through the substrate.

4. The display of claim 2 wherein the display has at least a portion curved around the audio port.

5. A handset device comprising: a housing and substrate within the housing comprising: at least a portion of an audio port defined by the substrate; and a display operatively coupled to the substrate wherein the display is configured to at least partially surround the audio port portion on the substrate.

6. The handset device of claim 5 wherein the display is an electrophoretic display.

7. The handset device of claim 6 comprising a speaker positioned adjacent to the portion of the audio port and wherein the portion of the audio port is comprised of a plurality of openings through the substrate.

8. The handset device of claim 6 wherein the display has at least a portion curved around the audio port.

9. The handset device of claim 7 comprising a keypad contact array operatively coupled on a same side of the substrate as the display.

10. The handset device of claim 9 further comprising a display electrode pattern operatively coupled to the substrate and wherein the electrophoretic display is laminated with the display electrode pattern.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220080019502%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20080019502&RS=DN/20080019502

Gw suka ma keypad qwerty.
Tp motorola rek..., mau na merk lain.
Again, tret ini ga dibaca palingan ma roX. Brani taruhan w760 nih gw...

Wah... Berarti kalah taruhan dong. Thread ini udah di baca dan posting oleh Erixxon dan Reds & Black. Gue tunggu yach kiriman Sony Ericsson W760; lumayan nanti gue jual terus uangnya buat beli handphone Motorola Z8.

Hidup harus optimistic. Motorola sebelum "Ed Zander" (CEO Motorola) juga pernah mengalami penurunan keuntungan tapi karena optimistic maka terciptalah inovasi "Motorola V3 Razr" yang sekarang menjadi simbol handphone flip tipis walaupun ada yang lebih tipis.

Gue sich bukan sekedar mendukung Motorola tapi gue optimistic bahwa tahun 2008 merupakan tahun kebangkitan Motorola; setiap 4 atau 5 tahun sekali Motorola mengeluarkan inovasi yang menghebohkan. Contohnya saja: Tahun 1999 => Motorola StarTac; tahun 2004 => Motorola V3 Razr; dan tahun 2008 => silahkan lihat kehebohan apa yang di buat Motorola.

Ada beberapa contoh dari merk handphone yang tadinya mau bangkrut tapi sekarang udah ada peningkatan. Contoh: LG, Sony dan Ericsson. Yach intinya "optimistic" aja.

Sekedar informasi saja tentang "Greg Brown" (CEO Motorola)
GREG BROWN
President and Chief Executive Officer
Motorola, Inc.

Greg Brown, 47, is president and chief executive officer of Motorola, Inc. Mr. Brown joined Motorola in 2003 and was elected to the Company’s Board of Directors in 2007.

Prior to his appointment as CEO, Mr. Brown served as President and Chief Operating Officer of Motorola. Among his many accomplishments at Motorola, Mr. Brown led the $3.9 billion acquisition of Symbol Technologies, the second largest transaction in Motorola’s history and an important strategic move to strengthen Motorola’s enterprise offering. Additionally, Mr. Brown returned the automotive business to profitability and subsequently led the divestiture of that business, selling it to Continental for $1.0 billion. He has headed four different businesses at Motorola including the government and public safety business, where earnings substantially increased under his leadership.

Mr. Brown has more than 25 years of high-tech experience. Prior to joining Motorola, he was chairman and CEO of Micromuse Inc., a network management software company. Before that, he was President of Ameritech Custom Business Services and Ameritech New Media Inc. Before joining Ameritech in 1987, Mr. Brown held a variety of sales and marketing positions with AT&T.

An active member of the civic and business communities, Mr. Brown was appointed by the White House to serve on President Bush’s National Security Telecommunications Advisory Committee (NSTAC) in May 2004. Mr. Brown is also a member of the board of directors for United Way, Northwestern Memorial Hospital, World Business Chicago, and the U.S.-China Business Council.

Mr. Brown received his bachelor's degree in economics from Rutgers University and is a member of the Rutgers board of overseers.

January 2008

Wah... Berarti kalah taruhan dong. Thread ini udah di baca dan posting oleh Erixxon dan Reds & Black. Gue tunggu yach kiriman Sony Ericsson W760; lumayan nanti gue jual terus uangnya buat beli handphone Motorola Z8.
Loh sejak kapan roX baca ini ??
Jd gw ga kalah taruhan lah.
Kan amras dan si milanisti itu ga pernah masuk itungan.
Hehe..

Gw baca sejak pukul 19.33 :D jadi ini tentang consept hp motorola terbaru yg layar ama keypad nya bs digulungkan :D walaupun ada kendala tp motorola bisa ngantisipasi dgn alat aneh gtu :D ya kan? hORE HORE :D Mana dit w760 nya gw tunggu ya :haha

Ah roX, koq bisa2 na kamu maen kesini....
Kan lu malas baca...
Yadah, ntar gw email w760 na...

Bad News.......




Motorola lays off 200+ employees in Schaumburg, Illinois?

On and on we cover bad news coming from Motorola. Actually, this isn't confirmed yet but according to Engadget Mobile's tipster, the American handset maker has laid off more than 200 additional employees recently. Apparently, people working with the customer service, mobile, and lab departments in Moto's home town of Schaumburg, Illinois took the bulk of the hit. Again, we have nothing confirmed, but this is everything but a surprise to everyone who's following the industry. Plus, when a company's in trouble, it's the cost-cutting measures shareholders are always cheering for. [Via: Engadget Mobile] ---Related Articles at IntoMobile:Helio lays off 100 employees amidst strongest performance yetMore hard-times for Sprint - Sprint Nextel lays off 4,000 employees, closes 125 retail storesPalm snubs holiday cheer and lays off employees?Palm holiday layoffs confirmed. It's going to be less-than-cheerful holiday at Palm.Sprint layoffs.

Biasa aja sich; bukan bad news. Nokia juga berhentiin sekitar 2 ribuan karyawan sekitar bulan Januari atau Februari 2008 lalu tutup pabriknya yang di Jerman tuch bahkan di boikot dari Jerman; koq kagak dihebohin.

Kagak heran; yang beritain "Engadget Mobile" yang anti sama Motorola dan suka heboh kalo ada apa-apa dengan Motorola.


Thousands voice anger over Nokia's Germany plans
Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:42pm EST

By Matthias Inverardi

BOCHUM, Germany, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Around 15,000 workers and labour officials took to the streets of Bochum on Tuesday, voicing their anger over the closure of a Nokia plant in the hope of forcing the Finnish company to rethink its plans.

Local and federal politicians as well as the head of Germany's industrial union IG Metall appealed to Nokia to revise its plans, which would put some 2,300 workers out of a job.

"There is no excuse for disgraceful and inhuman behaviour," IG Metall metalworkers union head Berthold Huber said, calling the plans "Wild West capitalism".

Nokia Chief Executive Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo told German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung he did not expect to learn anything new that would make it reverse its decision to close the plant, which he said accounts for 6 percent of output but 23 percent of personnel costs.

Nokia (NOK1V.HE: Quote, Profile, Research) said last week it would close the plant in the western city of Bochum because it was not competitive and would move production to Romania. The closure drew heavy political criticism ahead of state elections.

Bochum is an economically depressed region that has lost its historic mining and steelmaking industries.

The protests echoed demonstrations that took place three years ago when staff at carmaker Opel, owned by General Motors, successfully stopped the closing of their plant. Nokia is the second biggest employer in the region after Opel.

A Nokia spokesman said the company would seek ways to cushion the blow for staff laid off. "This will include packages for the staff and Nokia is willing to consider other support activities to staff and to the city."

According to a representative of the state government, Nokia had not yet scheduled further talks.

LITTLE HOPE TO SAVE PLANT

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who discussed Nokia's plans and expressed her concern in a call with Kallasvuo on Monday, told a radio interviewer she saw scant chance to save the plant.

"If Nokia's decision cannot be revised -- and signs seem to point in that direction -- everything needs to be done to give those people affected some prospects," she said.

Merkel said she did not think it necessary to abolish subsidies for companies, citing formerly communist eastern German states' ability to lure firms with state support.

Some politicians argue Nokia should repay German subsidies it received in the 1990s, but other officials have noted the company has invested much more than it received.

Germany, the world's biggest goods exporter since 2003, has seen its telecommunications sector hit hard in recent years. In 2006, 3,000 workers lost their jobs when BenQ Mobile (2352.TW: Quote, Profile, Research) declared bankruptcy, a year after it bought Siemens AG's (SIEGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) cellphone unit.

Germany, Europe's largest economy, is Nokia's fifth-largest market, with net sales of 2.06 billion euros ($3 billion) in 2006. Some union leaders in Germany have called for a boycott of Nokia goods and senior politicians have joined in the attack. (Editing by Paul Bolding)

Source:
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSL2281720120080122
http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSL2281720120080122?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

Hehe..
Product canggih..cuman masalah marketing ama edukasi ke konsumen yg perlu dibenahi...

Iya tuwh..
Kayany walopun hapeny keren tp merkny motorola, gw mikir 2x d..
Biz gw kurang suka ma user interfaceny..

Udah gtu pelayanan after sale nya ga bagus di indonesia ,, dijual jg jatohh bgt ,, parah deh.. Pdhl desain nya top2

Kelihatannya sudah terlalu "Out Of Topic" sejak postingan "Galaktus" dan lucu sekali sekarang bisa lari-larinya ke pembahasan yang kagak suka dengan Motorola.

Orang-orang Indonesia brand minded. Mau merk handphone apa; pasti harganya juga jatuh dan harga jatuh banget / tidak tergantung type-nya.

Kita buktikan merk mana yang sebenarnya harganya jatuh parah.

Contohnya saja: Kalo loe beli "NOKIA 8800 Sirocco" sekarang seharga berkisar Rp 6.500.000,- (baru) terus kebesokkannya / seminggu kemudian loe jual cuma laku berkisar Rp 4.050.000,- (di kurangi keuntungan yang harus di dapat oleh pembeli handphone second yaitu berkisar Rp 300.000,- s/d Rp 500.000,-; dan berarti handphone loe itu hanya diharga berkisar Rp 2.750.000,- s/d Rp 2.950.000,-; berarti loe rugi berkisar Rp 3.050.000,- s/d Rp 3.250.000,-
Silahkan check di:
http://www.ponseljakarta.com/iklan/nokia/nokia8800sirocco.htm
http://www.studiohp.com/price_list.php
Apakah semua type Nokia harganya jatuha parah?

Motorola Razr 2 V8 harga baru Rp 3.550.000,- dan secondnya Rp 2.750.000,- berarti kerugiannya sekitar Rp 1.150.000,- s/d Rp 1.350.000,-
Silahkan check di:
http://www.ponseljakarta.com/iklan/motorola/v8.htm
http://www.studiohp.com/price_list.php?var=MOTOROLA

Begitu pula dengan "Sony Ericsson" bisa di check di kedua website di atas.

Pelayanan After sales? Semua merk handphone kagak bagus. Mau bukti? Silahkan lihat di forum seberang dan suara pembaca.

User Interface? Hahaha... Terakhir kali lihat User Interface di handphone Motorola yang mana? Sudah lihat User Interface Motorola Rokr Z6, Motorola Razr 2 V8, Motorola Rokr U9, Motorola Rokr E8 dan baru-baru?

Hahaha... Yach sama kayak "Motorola Rizr Z8"; ada yang bilang jelek. Tapi bukti berbicara "Sony Ericsson Xperia" ambil dari konsep "Motorola Rizr Z8" yaitu slide kalo di buka akan melengkung. Menggunakan OS Windows 6.1; padahal ada yang kagak suka dengan Windows.

Tambahan informasi dan sebagai informasi saja.

Kamis, 28/02/2008 16:06 WIB
Siemens Kembali akan 'Rumahkan' 7.000 Karyawan
Dewi Widya Ningrum - detikinet

Munich - Kembali Siemens mengumumkan rencananya untuk merumahkan sekitar 7.000 orang karyawannya yang berkedudukan di Jerman dan Brazil. Jika diprosentasekan, hampir 40% dari total karyawan Siemens yang berjumlah 17.500 orang terancam kehilangan pekerjaan.

Langkah ini dilakukan karena Siemens berniat merestrukturisasi unit bisnis Siemens Enterprise Communications (SEN) dan mempercepat transformasi unit bisnis tersebut dari awalnya sebagai penyedia hardware menjadi penyedia solusi dan software telekomunikasi.

Dilansir Businessweek dan dikutip detikINET, Kamis (28/2/2008), khusus di divisi Siemens Enterprise Communications, rencananya Siemens akan mem-PHK sekitar 3.800 karyawannya termasuk 2.000 karyawan di Jerman, sisanya di luar Jerman. Sementara sekitar 3.000 karyawan lagi, nantinya akan dialihkan ke pihak ketiga yang masih merupakan mitra bisnis Siemens.

Dilansir wsws.org, Chief Financial Officer Siemens Joe Kaeser mengatakan, unit bisnis SEN telah mengalami depresiasi keuangan sebesar 602 juta poundsterling. Dengan adanya pemutusan hubunga kerja (PHK) tersebut, Kaeser berharap keuangan perusahaan bisa membaik dan juga mendongkrak saham Siemens.

Sebelum rencana PHK dijalankan, Siemens akan bernegosiasi terlebih dulu dengan beberapa perwakilan karyawan guna mendiskusikan lebih lanjut soal nasib para karyawan yang terancam di-PHK.
( dwn / dwn )

Sumber: http://www.detikinet.com/index.php/detik.read/tahun/2008/bulan/02/tgl/28/time/160626/idnews/901532/idkanal/319

Apakah itu berarti "Bad News" buat "Nokia" dan "Siemens"?

OK, silahkan balik ke topik "Motorola Concept Phone"

Motorola Concept Phone at the Symbian Smartphone Show
October 17, 2007 at 4:06 pm by Jay | In Mobile News

One of the more interesting things to be found at mobile phone shows is when a company turns up pushing ideas, and concepts. Sometimes these things come through, other times they are incorporated with other features and sometimes they just get left behind in the fast changing environment of progressive technology.

Yesterday at the Symbian Smartphone Show I had the opportunity to look over some concepts Motorola are planning for future handset releases. The phone you see in the photos is just a concept phone, it has no model number, and may well never be released as a product. The idea in bringing the handset to the expo was to showcase the media capabilities that Motorola may be introducing in future handsets.

The Motorola Concept phone demonstrated some very high power picture and video editing capabilities.

On most camera phones, there is a delay, sometimes of up to 5 seconds, as the camera loads and opens. The camera on the concept Motorola launched very quickly, and was ready to use straight away. When taking a picture the handset saved the picture, archived it to the designated folder and was ready to shoot, again very quickly. In a very non scientific test the concept phone proved to be much quicker than the Sony Ericsson K810i I had with me at the time.

The video capture was at 30fps. Once a video clip has been recorded, there are a wide range of options available on the handset itself to edit the clip. You can cut sections of the clip, join other clips together, use transitions as you fade from one clip to another; you can cut out pieces of audio, add a soundtrack, and on and on. The options were numerous, but the thing that made it great is the handset was so usable. Now, it is fair to say I have not always been Motorola’s biggest fan. However the concept I saw yesterday was very good. It is not often you find Motorola and usability linked together in a positive way but the concept phone was just usable. All the features for video editing were simply laid out in a logical manner, and navigation of the menu was via a solid feeling circular 5 way joypad.

Once you are happy with the editing, the Motorola phone offers one click uploads to popular online media services such as YouTube, Flickr, Facebook, etc.You can set the phone so all media is uploaded to one destination or split things up, so videos go to Youtube and pictures go to Flickr, for example. You can imagine for yourself the possibilities available. 21st birthday pictures immediately online to share with friends, wedding videos to share with family who can’t be with you, sporting events, social parties, and so on. Even news clips, in an era of instant media, can easily be filmed and uploaded for the world to see.

If the features on show in the concept phone make it onto forthcoming Motorola handsets, then they are going to have some phones worth shouting about. It will be interesting to see over the coming months what they have to offer.

Source: http://blog.mobiles.co.uk/mobile-news/motorola-concept-phone-at-the-symbian-smartphone-show

Tests Show a Motorola Phone Being Powered by Hydrogen

The Canadian firm, Angstrom Power says that it has successfully completed a six month trial running a Motorola mobile phone on a hydrogen based fuel cell. The replacement fuel cell was clipped to the phone as a direct replacement for the existing battery - and importantly, did not increase the overall size of the mobile phone.

Angstrom has also demonstrated research results showing twice the talk-time of the equivalent battery-powered devices in side-by-side testing. The fuel cell can also be recharged in less than 10 minutes.

Stuart Robinson, Director of Handset Component Technologies at Strategy Analytics Ltd, commented, "Our research shows that insufficient battery run time ranks as one of the leading considerations in the adoption of handheld devices with rich multimedia functionality. Development of Lithium batteries is too slow to meet the growing energy demands of cellular handsets. Angstrom's achievement, the world's first successful integration of micro fuel cell technology into a standard mobile handset, demonstrates the potential of micro fuel cells to provide a better solution for demanding mobile energy applications."

Angstrom Power's Micro Hydrogen fuel cells use hydrogen gas stored in a metal hydride and oxygen from the air to make electricity. The only by-product is water vapor and small amounts of heat. The key to Angstrom Power’s fuel cell technology is the ability to pack a large amount of surface area into a small volume using proprietary micro-structured topology.

Angstrom is currently collaborating with battery manufacturers, portable electronic device makers and mobile service providers towards the commercialization of its Micro Hydrogen technology. The addressable market for Angstrom's technology is estimated to exceed a billion units annually by 2010.

On the web: Angstrom Power (http://www.angstrompower.com)

Bagus dong kita membicarakan bad news jadi jangan good news doang ky nokia meledak itu, lagipula bad news kan buat karyawannya, kalo buat konsumen ya memang biasa ajalah ga ngaruh....
Kalo udah melenceng dari topik paling2 diclose ama sumod ky thread sebelah.....:p

pengen mendebat postingan TS soal hp SE, cuman sudahlah...ga baik OOT..

cuman yg pasti, motorola dgn berbagai konsep begini, kalau UInya ga rubah2 juga, gw ga bakalan beli..kl ada yg merespon siapa juga yg bth dibeli sama lo? jawabannya juga gw ga peduli. Menurut gw UI Motorola yang baru ini yang paling jelek ke 2 setelah Nokia.
justru gw lebih suka sama UI motorola yg lama (yg ada di e398).
Kesimpulan ini diambil setelah gw membandingkan Ui antara moto v8, SE w910, dan samsung e950. yah gw anggep itu latest UI dr masing2 vendor.

well, pendapat gw ini totally subjektif.

just my 2 cents..

ini ujung2nya OOT juga..
ya uda biar ga oot,

The Motorola PVOT is a hand crank phone that offers one minute of usage after a sweat-inducing 25 cranks. Talk about working for your airtime! The hand crank charges the single AA rechargeable battery inside, and the PVOT comes with a 125 x 125 dot matrix LCD and an "Eraser Shield" keypad. It is still unknown whether this concept will make it into production, but should that happen, it will be a boon to developing third world countries in bridging the communications gap.

http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2006/5/motorola-pvot.jpg

bingung nih sama ni hp..cara makenya gimana yah?tp bagus juga sih tambah inovasi, ngga berkutat mulu sama RAZR..btw pvot itu pivot yah?
bagus juga indeks penamaan di motorola..

kalo gue, jelas mending UI Moto baru2 dong dibanding E398? :p tapi gue menghargai pendapat Val. kan itu klo gue. ~___~ gue pernah pake dan menurut gue UI Moto yang baru itu punya file manager one of the best lho.

eraser shield keypad itu maksudnya apa ya?

hihi iyah donk mike, kudu ngehargain pendapat org..tiap org kan seleranya beda-beda..ga bisa disamain..
haha, suer PVOT ini aneh bgt..masih byk yg ga gw mengerti..