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Q`tee
March 29, 2003, 03:43
ada yg tau gak cerita pasti di blk misteri kartu tarot?

gua pengen belajar cara baca kartu tarot, cuma denger2 katanya tiap seri kartu tuh ada kutukannya sendiri gitu yah?

malaikatbaru
March 30, 2003, 07:32
ada macem macemnya ya kartu tarot. gue pernah sih diramal pake kartu tarot..cuma gua gak gitu konsen

pamparius
March 30, 2003, 07:34
gue pengen punya kartu Death buat gua keep n koleksi ehhehe.......

d'cheztr
March 30, 2003, 07:39
emangnya ramalannya udah pasti bener?

malaikatbaru
March 30, 2003, 07:44
ga tau juga..soalnya ramalannya kan tergantung kartu apa yg kita ambil. jadi tergantung mood juga. namanya juga ramalan

c2h2ia
April 01, 2003, 04:03
apa ada akibat nya kalo tuh kartu kita buat maenan?? :)

pamparius
April 01, 2003, 07:06
yah kayaknya ga ngefek deh aehehaaeh......

KikyKelinci
April 01, 2003, 08:38
Kutukan? Masa sih?

:D

gue ada tarot.

Tapi ramalan tarot gue ga prcaya :P

Q`tee
April 04, 2003, 00:53
lho? :eek:
terus ngapain beli?

Rotor_69
April 08, 2003, 08:18
iya yah buang2 duit ajjah mendingan tu duit di beliinama yang lebih berguna :hehe

9h[e]e
April 15, 2003, 13:14
Tarot itu mengasyikkan!!! :rock
pertamanya juga gwa rada serem beli kartu tarot.. tapi setelah dipelajari, ternyata tarot tuh asik banget!
temen2 gwa banyak yang suka minta ramal ke gwa, dan beberapa diantaranya cerita ke gwa kalo hasil ramalannya jadi kenyataan... ;)

tadinya gwa ga percaya tuh ama ramal-ramalan kaya gitu.. tapi setelah dicoba, dan beberapa kali jadi kenyataan.......................... jadi percaya-percaya-ngga-ngga deh.. ;p
kalo hasil ramalannya bagus ya percaya... kalo hasil ramalannya jelek yaaa dibuat utk mawas diri aja.. :)

bubble
April 16, 2003, 20:47
ramalan2 tarot cards mah ga beda jauh sama tebak2an ngasal.

ramalan2nya juga sekitar hal2 umum ajah, seperti: bakal ketemu samwan special, bakal mengalami kesedihan, bakal sakit, dll...

sebab kenapa lumayan banyak yg percaya tarot cards soalnya yah orang2 cenderung lebih ngutamain ramalan yg jadi kenyataan daripada yg ngga.

envy
April 21, 2003, 14:05
ngebacanya gimana seh?? explain dunksssss :D:D
yg ngerti harep berbagi ilmu :D

Dare-Devil
April 21, 2003, 14:16
tarot cuma untuk ramal ajah yak?
gue taunya dari komik kindaichi
yang asli lom pernah liat

///M5
April 22, 2003, 16:11
aku ga percaya ma skali sama ramalan!!

flappy_pinkle
June 18, 2003, 03:56
gua juga tauknya dari komik2....cuman asal2 usulnya and cara ngebacanya gimana seh itu?!!?jadi pengen tauk...

Metha
June 19, 2003, 04:28
Belum pernah liat seh cuman sering denger2 orang2 yang di ramal pake tarot kayak nya seh asyik
aku juga pernah di ramal pake kartu tarot seh
ya gitu lah ramalan ada yg bener ada yg gak :hehe:

Angles
June 20, 2003, 15:32
Beli kartu tarot dmana yah yg bagus??? dari dulu g dah pengin punya d

h-exe-cute
June 26, 2003, 04:13
kartu tarot setahu gw ngga boleh dibeli - k'lo mau dipake buat ngeramal, k'lo buat koleksi sih ga 'pa-'pa
paling bagus 'khasiat' ramalannya k'lo kartu tarot dikasih sama org laen, + ngga boleh disentuh sama org laen selain pemiliknya.

plastic
June 28, 2003, 14:15
Originally posted by Angles
Beli kartu tarot dmana yah yg bagus??? dari dulu g dah pengin punya d

mo beli kartu tarot
kalo gak loe cari di toko buku TIMES ato KINOKUNIA

plastic
June 28, 2003, 14:17
katu tarot
emang seh asik ngeramal dengan kartu ini
yah ini seh semua tergantung ama kita sendiri
mo di bilang percaya yah percaya
mo gak percaya yah gak percaya deh
semua balik ama diri kita sendiri

Katsuhiro Azuya
July 01, 2003, 17:09
gw punya kartu tarot aquarian, temen gw ada yg ngirimin dari amrik. dia bilang entah kenapa tiba2 pengen ngirimin gw tuh tarot;D

sempet gw pake beberapa kali, terutama pas gw mao ambil satu keputusan, gw pernah pake kartu tarot untuk ngeliat kemungkinan2 apa yg bisa terjadi klo gw ambil tuh keputusan. kebetulan hasilnya bagus, dan gw jalani keputusan itu. dan selama setaon, gw liat yg gw alami bener seperti yg dah dibilangin tarot itu.

one more thing: kartu tarot ga ngejelasin secara detail/spesifik event2 apa yg pernah, sedang, ato akan kita alami, tapi hanya general interpretation aja...

Katsuhiro Azuya
July 01, 2003, 17:12
oh ya, katanya supaya kita bisa lebih 'dekat' dan berkomunikasi lancar dengan kartu2 tarot yg kita miliki, kita harus bungkus tuh tarot pake kain warna item, dan simpen di bawah bantal dan dibawa tidur 3 malem berturut2... setelah itu, kartu tarot lo akan 'menerima' lo sebagai 'majikannya'

i did it, anyway:)

risca
July 22, 2003, 21:50
mama gw demen bgt ama yg namanya tarot.....di new york banyak bgt yg juall kalo ada yg mau..gw bisa kok beliiin buat loe..yg mau......ueuehuehueh menurut gw seh gak ada kutukannya..mama gw aja lage blajar neh...

tarot kalo buat yg bener2 bagis lage...menurut gw bisa berfungsi..tapi mesti dilatihin bener2

Enche
December 24, 2003, 04:38
kayanya mesti latihan terus menerus dan dicatet dengan telaten.

gue baru beli kartu tarot cuma ga tau maksud dari

reverse card itu kaya apa

eudea
December 24, 2003, 15:31
reserve card : kartu terbalik
pas dibuka kartunya posisinya kebalik antara atas dan bawah. artinya bisa beda dengan yang gak reserve. tapi gak slalu berkebalikan.
selamat berlatih.

Avantasia
December 27, 2003, 13:43
ada yg mau beli kartu tarot gak? gw jual masih baru, baru dipake sekali
ke forum jual beli ya kalo minat

Hamlet
December 31, 2003, 01:05
Semanjur apa sih kartu tarot?

Enche
January 08, 2004, 02:38
Originally posted by eudea
reserve card : kartu terbalik
pas dibuka kartunya posisinya kebalik antara atas dan bawah. artinya bisa beda dengan yang gak reserve. tapi gak slalu berkebalikan.
selamat berlatih.

Kalau kartu dalam deck ya biasanya semua
menghadap ke atas, lalu semua juga bakalan
dari atas ke bawah.

atau cara shufflenya kartunya di obok2 gitu?
jadi ada kemungkinan kartu kebalik pas dibuka?

Originally posted by Hamlet
Semanjur apa sih kartu tarot?

emangnya obat kali, setau gue kartu ini
buat fortune telling aja, akurasinya tergantung
konsentrasi, dan cara handel dan bacanya.

Q`tee
January 10, 2004, 22:30
Originally posted by Enrique
Kalau kartu dalam deck ya biasanya semua
menghadap ke atas, lalu semua juga bakalan
dari atas ke bawah.

atau cara shufflenya kartunya di obok2 gitu?
jadi ada kemungkinan kartu kebalik pas dibuka?

shufflenya bisa seperti shuffle kartu remi biasa, bisa juga yg diobok2 gitu. dan elo jg bisa "bilang" dulu ke kartu itu apakah elo akan pake reverse card apa nggak. biar lebih baik sih, elo tetepin elo mau pake reverse card apa nggak, jgn gonta ganti.

reverse card bisa jadi ngasih tau arti yg berlawanan dari arti kartu itu sendiri, bisa juga diartikan sbg energi yg kurang. jadi potensi dari kartu itu sendiri udah ada, tapi masih kurang usaha untuk jadi kenyataan (for it to come true).

Devilique
April 03, 2004, 09:16
Originally posted by Enrique
atau cara shufflenya kartunya di obok2 gitu?
jadi ada kemungkinan kartu kebalik pas dibuka?

Kalo elu emang pengen pake reversed, caranya tiap kali shuffle kartu dalam keadaan ngga reading or setelah reading, ambil satu kartu dan diputer 180 derajat msh dalam keadaan face down ...
Kalo emang ngga siap pake reversed siy ngga usah, karena kadang susah untuk interpretnya , tapi yang jelas harus mantep, sekali pake reversed diusahain jangan diganti2, soalnya selain repot bolak balik , energinya ntar ngga keserep sama itu kartu.

Devilique
April 03, 2004, 09:20
Originally posted by Hamlet
Semanjur apa sih kartu tarot?

manjur engganya cuma pengalaman n keyakinan yang akan membuktikan. yang jelas kalo elu belajar, elu harus yakin , kalo elu ngga yakin kartunya bisa 'ngerasain' loh :D ntar ngga mau nurut lagi sama elu ...
Kalo gue lagi ngebacain orang siy ngga pernah nanya apakah bener ato ngga bacaan gue [I dislike the word ramalan], yang jelas gue harus yakin kalo gue bener. Masalah orang yang dibacain itu percaya or ngga ntar kan bisa keliatan juga dari respon dia selanjutnya :)

sHiniCHipOtTeR
April 18, 2004, 07:38
hallo hallo gw.. mo beLi KarTu TaRot's plus bukunya.... jg lupa bukunya bahasa idonesia soalnya gw gak isa bahasa inggris :maaf: :maaf: ::cry:: ::v:: [love]

st_friendster
May 10, 2004, 11:08
kalo gak salah....
kartu tarot pertama kali...
dibikin pas zaman kegelapan eropa..
bener gka..?

dr. Van Claude
May 11, 2004, 08:44
gw mo beli kartu tarot dan belajar baca kartu tarot. Gw serius nich.. ada yg bisa bantu gak?

st_friendster
May 11, 2004, 09:17
temen gw punya tuh kartu tarot tapi gw gak tau judulnya apa..
cover kardus depannya aja serem abiez...
ada cewe.. [maap dadanya keliatan]
trus palanya kambing..
lagi duduk dirumput...
dibelakangnya kelaitan ada Gereja..
jadi neh di halaman luar..
mungkin artinya aktifitas setan di luar gereja yang dilakukan pada zaman medieval eropa/kegelapan...
serem abiez.. dalam2nya ada uler ijo muter2 kalo diliat jadi kaya 666
trus banyak pentagramnya..
serem abiez de..
trus belakang kartunya gampar bintang dalem lingkaran..
ih...
dia beli di megamall..
kalo gak salah 290rebu yah..

puzzy
July 04, 2004, 15:02
eh?? beneran ada kartu tarot nih?? tp ga minat ah... ntar begitu liat lgs pingsan, lg... :hehe

dishu
July 06, 2004, 15:03
Originally posted by 9h[e]e
Tarot itu mengasyikkan!!! :rock
pertamanya juga gwa rada serem beli kartu tarot.. tapi setelah dipelajari, ternyata tarot tuh asik banget!
temen2 gwa banyak yang suka minta ramal ke gwa, dan beberapa diantaranya cerita ke gwa kalo hasil ramalannya jadi kenyataan... ;)

tadinya gwa ga percaya tuh ama ramal-ramalan kaya gitu.. tapi setelah dicoba, dan beberapa kali jadi kenyataan.......................... jadi percaya-percaya-ngga-ngga deh.. ;p
kalo hasil ramalannya bagus ya percaya... kalo hasil ramalannya jelek yaaa dibuat utk mawas diri aja.. :)


tertarik nich,.....beli katunya dimana tuh..... ada manual yang bisa dipelajari gak?

^KaZaLiCiOuZ!!^
July 25, 2004, 18:32
g percaya ama ramalan.. gua pengen beli kartu tarot deh... tapi takutnya ntar di datengin setan ato kutukan dari tarot itu...

joya
July 25, 2004, 18:46
Gw prnh lht di TGA Klp Gading, hrgnya diatas 200rb (lupa...), kartu plus manual book-nya, import, jd pk bhs inggris.

gw punya tarot lokal (copy dr luar), manual booknya Inggris tp ada kesimpulan Indo-nya. tp lg gak mood bljr..

semuasemu
August 11, 2004, 17:30
Konon kartu Tarot berasal dr kaum pagan,sebuah kaum penyembah dewa/dewi yg dlm proses ritualnya sarat dengan simbol2 dan gambar.Pada awalnya kartu Tarot tsb hanyalah sebuah kartu utk permainan.Kemudian seiring dgn berkembangnya zaman Kartu Tarot mulai digunakan oleh peramal2 karena kartu tsb memiliki simbol2 yg diyakini memiliki arti tertentu.Pada sebagian org kartu Tarot jg diyakini sbg kartu yg memiliki kekuatan gaib,dan bahkan sebagian org menyatakan bahwa Tarot adalah kartu Setan.

thonythonythony
August 14, 2004, 12:27
susah2.....

beli kartu AS dr telkomsel aja, katanya dapet kartu Tarot.....

tul gak seehhh....? :rock

ShivaShEeN
February 18, 2005, 07:55
Originally posted by 9h[e]e
Tarot itu mengasyikkan!!! :rock
pertamanya juga gwa rada serem beli kartu tarot.. tapi setelah dipelajari, ternyata tarot tuh asik banget!
temen2 gwa banyak yang suka minta ramal ke gwa, dan beberapa diantaranya cerita ke gwa kalo hasil ramalannya jadi kenyataan... ;)

tadinya gwa ga percaya tuh ama ramal-ramalan kaya gitu.. tapi setelah dicoba, dan beberapa kali jadi kenyataan.......................... jadi percaya-percaya-ngga-ngga deh.. ;p
kalo hasil ramalannya bagus ya percaya... kalo hasil ramalannya jelek yaaa dibuat utk mawas diri aja.. :)

hiya..
gw punya sekitar 10 kartu tarot ..
yg kartu tarot biasa ada 5,yang MINI bgt ada 1,Glow in the dark 1,yg Gede 1,Love&Spell Box 1,Magic&spell 1.

dan kisah gw maen kartu tarot sama bgt ma diatas,banyak yg kejadian.. dan pd ngelapor ke gw kalo yg gw ramalin kejadian.
salah satunya cowok gw,gw ramalin dia kalo dia bakalan ngegantiin seseorang buat kerja,jadi dia yg dapet kerjaan.trus bakalan ada yg minjem duit ama dia,tp dlm jumlah yg kecil.
ngga taunya,besokannya dia di tlp untuk gantiin orang kerja,dan di hari yg sama,temen kerjanya tlp dia buat minjem duit 100rb :D.wahahahaha..dsb dsb.
nyokap gw juga gw ramalin,bakalan keilangan sesuatu hari ini..eeeeh ayam bakar buat makan siang yg baru dibeli,ilang :D ..
dll..

gw ndiri juga kyknya ga ada kemampuan macem2,yg penting gimana caranya kita buat menginterpretasikan apa yg keluar di kartu itu..

tapi diantara kartu2 itu,ga semuanya gw cocok maennya .. percaya/nggak .. perasaan gw sih,kyknya 1set kartu yg satu ama yg laen vibrate-nya beda.
yg cocok gw mainin cuma vampire tarot & love spell.

terus,kadang juga gw suka capek maen tarot,ga tau kenapa..suka lelah gitu kyknya abis ngeramal ..

ShivaShEeN
February 18, 2005, 08:00
kalo mo beli ..
gw sebagian dari luar negeri
sebagian dr sini..
yg disini beli di KINOKUNIYA-nya sogo yg di PS itu.
yg Mini banget 54 ribu,tp kecil,susah ngocoknya.
yg sedeng 134-an.
yg biasa 200 rb ke atas
yg gede..tau ,ga liat harganya.
di rak bukunya juga ada manual book buat macem2 kartu,yg emang ngejelasin semua,tapi ga dijual ma kartunya.
kalo yg ma kartunya kan rata2 garis besarnya aja.

ntar lo baru mau masuk ke tokoknya tu kartu tarot dah pada dipajang langsung di pintu masuk,di rak beningnya.
rasanya pengen gw borong semua deh :D

ShivaShEeN
February 18, 2005, 08:17
Originally posted by Katsuhiro Azuya
oh ya, katanya supaya kita bisa lebih 'dekat' dan berkomunikasi lancar dengan kartu2 tarot yg kita miliki, kita harus bungkus tuh tarot pake kain warna item, dan simpen di bawah bantal dan dibawa tidur 3 malem berturut2... setelah itu, kartu tarot lo akan 'menerima' lo sebagai 'majikannya'

i did it, anyway:)

iya
tapi katanya beda2 loh tiap tarot cara biar diterimanya
ada yg musti disinarin ama sinar bulan lah
ada yg dipakein kaen item
tapi yg PAS banget ma gw,kyknya nyaman bgt gw mainin itu musti di bungkus pake kain putih,ditaro di dalem kotak kayu,dan kotak kayu itu ditaro salah satu barang milik kita,dan ga boleh dipinjemin.
jadinya tu tarot hanya mau ngasih liat kalo hanya kita yg megang,krn udah SAH jadi milik kita.

thonythonythony
February 20, 2005, 19:17
Originally posted by sHiniCHipOtTeR
hallo hallo gw.. mo beLi KarTu TaRot's plus bukunya.... jg lupa bukunya bahasa idonesia soalnya gw gak isa bahasa inggris :maaf: :maaf: ::cry:: ::v:: [love]

as long as i know, ada kok tarot yang dibuat dan didesain khusus untuk orang Indonesia.....
dan yang menemukan bukan orang sembarangan, beliau adalah salah satu CTGM (Certified Tarot Grand Master),
yaitu Ibunda Ani Sekarningsih CTGM...

Tarot Wayang's Founder ...... ;)

tujuannya agar khalayak tidak menganggap bahwa tarot itu adalah barang yang sangat eksklusif dan sudah untuk dipelajari... tetapi tarot dapat digunakan oleh semua orang dari berbagai lapisan....

tarot wayang diakui juga kok sebagai tarot yang sah, jd gak usah khawatir...

So, good luck..!!!!

thonythonythony
February 20, 2005, 19:27
Originally posted by PuCcA^-^S1P1T
g percaya ama ramalan.. gua pengen beli kartu tarot deh... tapi takutnya ntar di datengin setan ato kutukan dari tarot itu...

ya gak segitunya lahhh...... :lol:
takut sama kutukan, apa sama Tuhan..??? heheheehehe :D

kalau pembacaan tarot yang dihubung2kan dengan sebuah sekte atau aliran tertentu yang berhubungan dengan pemujaan setan mungkin iya.. nah ini...??? ada setannya gak..?? wekekekekeek :lol:

meskipun tarot mengandung nilai mistik di dalamnya, pada proses penebarannya, tp gak segitunya lahh... ;)

kalau lebih takut sama kutukan, ya monggo..... hehehehe :lol:

thonythonythony
February 20, 2005, 19:39
tidak salah tarot buat meramal, tapi ada beberapa hal yang harus diluruskan disini....

fungsi tarot tepatnya adalah alat/tools terbaik untuk membaca peta kehidupan seseorang .... bukan meramal...

karena meramal adalah menerka2 hal yang akan terjadi / akan datang .... sedangkan tarot, adalah membaca garis kehidupan seseorang secara langsung dan menuangkannya melalui media tarot itu sendiri......

ibaratnya GPS dalam membaca peta kehidupan seseorang.....
jadi kalau A ya itu A ...... ;)

semoga bermanfaat........ ;)

saikyo
October 08, 2005, 16:31
After a long thought, I decided to move my humble shop here.

I am here for your spiritual needs, and my tool is tarot.

All readings are free and will be posted here. I will answer questions if I were called by the question. Questions about Birth, Marriage and Death will not be answered.

Procedures :
Describe yourself, state your question, and choose a number between 0 - 3, this number will serve as a connector between us.

All readings will be in English, and I will not translate them into local language for free.

Premium Service
for 30 GP, I will send the result to your pm and even translate it into Indonesian.
for 100 GP, you can talk to me directly and involved at the process via yahoo messanger. I am available from 9 PM to 11 PM during work days, as for weekend it depends. We shall arrange an appointment before hand.

viani
October 08, 2005, 18:00
oh hi i'm not really understand when u said, "Questions about Birth, Marriage and Death will not be answered." can u be more specific?

anyway i'm a girl 22 years old, i do have a relationship with a man who is 32 years old. i have been with him for about 2 years now. it's hard for me to trust him cause i did have trauma in such relationship before. so what do u think about the relationship btw me and him? do u need more specific information about me tough? and for the number 0-3, i prefer number 2.
thx a lot.

saikyo
October 08, 2005, 18:10
Never asked for a question regarding "when will I bear my child ?" or "who will marry me?" or "how much time do i have ?" or something similar. Don't ask questions regarding your previous life either, there is a good reason why you should not remember.

Your question is clear enough, but haven't called me yet, I will answer when the time comes.

saikyo
October 09, 2005, 08:08
This reading was done by using Celtic Dragon Tarot with Celtic Cross (modified)

1. You: 2 of Wands
2. Helpful forces: Judgement
3. Opposing forces: 2 of Pentacles
4. Present happenings: 2 of Cups
5. Subconscious feeling: 4 of Wands
6. Past Influence: 10 of Wands
7. Possible immediate future: The Hermit
8. Fears & Attitudes: Queen of Swords
9. Influence & opinions of family and friends: Nine of Cups
10. Result of action & tought : Page of Swords
11. Final outcome: Queen of Pentacles
12. Extra: Death
13. Extra: 7 of Cups

saikyo
October 09, 2005, 08:36
If only I know your zodiac sign

Let me ask you a question Viani, have you experience in similar situation but he left you to marry someone else ?

You are in love with him and you cannot deny that, he have everything you need, physical and mentally prepared for marriage, but it looks like you're not ready for such commitment yet. You're 22 years old and still want to enjoy your current lifestyle.

I saw a strong figure around you whose command is absolute, do your mother not like your current relationship ? people think that you are really happy right now, but they doubt wether you will be happy after marrying him.

Most of all, you will postpone the marriage in case he propose to you, do you even think to break this relationship ?

Please be careful as you might be happy over gaining something small while not realizing that you lose something bigger.
I will leave the sentence above for you to decipher

The final outcome is ...
Perhaps you choose to pursue your dream, even if it will result a big change on your life. I saw you controlling your own life every aspect of it.

As usual, I expect a feedback from you regarding this reading. If you need me to clarify any aspect, please ask. Thank you and good evening.

viani
October 09, 2005, 16:15
hi saikyo, i am libra. i will answer your questions...

*have you experience in similar situation but he left you to marry someone else ?
not exactly like this.....i do have trauma about the relationship...before him...i was with the guy who never want the commitment and he never tell me that he loves me eventough we're more than friends...absolutely. from then on,i started having a problem to trust a man...the worst i'm getting paranoid losing my bf.
and the other one was we almost broke up (me and my bf right now) just because his mom not really want him marry woman from another country/race......and at that time i think he was still thinking about his previous girlfriend.

*You are in love with him and you cannot deny that
yeah you're right....he is the most understanding man that i ever knew.

btw saikyo....actually i really like to get married soon more like obsession for me but yeah maybe i just not ready yet...i'll wait. but around my family tough, i think they're okay with him. i probably worried more about his mom. he's gonna coming back to his country to ask his mom about our relationship. i wished everything gonna be okay because without his mom approval, i think i'm gonna end this relationship soon. still thinking about it tough. thanks a lot for the reading...it's helpful...


but can u know about his feelings towards me tough? he is sagitarius....is he serious??? thanks again.

kerbau08
October 10, 2005, 14:40
ai kenot spik inglis

innosia
October 10, 2005, 15:38
hi saikyo
first please pardon my poorly written english coz i am not english speaker.

My zodiac is pisces and if you ask me a number from 0 to 3, in fact no particular number that i like, for that reason i choose 0.

I am really wondering the meaning of my life, though in past suicide might come up to my head everytime i think about this bitter world but recently i change quite a lot, and perhaps the will of living is strenghten quite a bit.

Living is exactly bitter for me, i have endured a lot of hardship includes losing my self esteem, pride and so on, so i have lost every reasons of meaning beside pursuing to become eternal.

Currently I am working in a place where i do work with no much passion, sometimes work is done gracefully and while i endure so much headache because thinking too much of it (while i have kundalini syndrome which prevents me to think).

Can you please tell me is my future here in my current office? Or shall i pursue another way of living such as leaving my current job position?

saikyo
October 10, 2005, 17:32
viani, I have to admit that that I misread a little. The strong mommy figure is his mom and not your mom, so it is her who do not believe that his son will be happy in marrying you.

the 4 of wands did said something about the sense of security that's why I wonder about your zodiac sign, I already guessed that it is air based as you don't looked like an emotional person but I doubted that :p

today I m very tired, a friend of mine got an accident and put into hospital, me and my fellow coworker went to visit her. I will read for you tomorrow, hopefully there no obstacles.

innosia, I will try reading you when the time is right and to all of you who read this... now indonesia is about to enter a globalisation era, you will compete with people across nations for jobs that is scarce day by day, with people who speak english as fluent as you speak your native language. as the clients will be from other country as well, will the company choose you when you have no skill at english ?

evolver
October 10, 2005, 20:54
omigod... i wrong enter forum, in here speak english all... how i can understand... :D :D

MR.SENSI-BANGET
October 10, 2005, 22:40
imigod too...!!!

viani
October 10, 2005, 22:53
it's okay mistakes happens anytime...eveywhere...and you're human right?:) .....btw saikyo how is your friend? is she okay?
saikyo, i really need to know everything about him.....so please help me...thanks for the reading....

innosia
October 11, 2005, 01:20
i think my company will also choose me if I do not speak english at all, in fact i am working in a software house, writing software for sell. My skill is in computer programming, probably company will not use me anymore if my skill is outdated.

our company's client is local company, so we don't actually use english a lot but sometimes i admit that yes we do need to communicate with foreigner but mostly handled by our manager.

I pray that may your friend be healthy again, amin...

thanks a lot

saikyo
October 15, 2005, 17:24
viani, has he started the journey to meet his mother ? as I saw at the cards, he looked puzzled too, but he uses his brains, and looked like going to start the journey soon or perhaps he already went there.

Additional, before above reading, there is another reading for you that i forgot to mention.

One of you wanted to end this relationship badly, while the other one still expecting to see more of this relationship.

now I need to ask you a question, are there anyone around you that is expecting you to end your relationship ? someone who tried to get near you whenever there is a chance, even though he knew that there is this relationship ?

viani
October 15, 2005, 20:49
hi saikyo,actually he went there last thursday.what do u mean by "he looked puzzled too,but he uses his brains" is that mean he had doubt to tell his mom about our relationship?

One of you wanted to end this relationship badly, while the other one still expecting to see more of this relationship.
i told him many times that without his mom approval,we can't go on like this.......saikyo,do u see any sign which can tell u that he want to be with me?or say.....he more likely taking my side than his mom side?

whoa....i surprised about your reading.......makes me feel creepy when i read your replies....
yes,there are 2 guys who .....i think try to make me break up with my boyfriend.
The first one, he was my ex bf before him.i would say he likes me a lot,he spent a lot only to see me. we were having long distance relationship at that time but i realized we were not get along nicely.
The second one, he is one of my friend, he said he likes me when we met from the first time when i started my semester in college. i told him many times that i do have a bf...but still he doesn't seem to understand those words.he said the other day to my friends..... "relax, she's not married yet so i still have chances".

saikyo
October 16, 2005, 15:19
I m really sorry to say this, he will choose his mother over you.

Between the struggle to keep you and a mother's request. I forgot the details as I did the reading 2 hours ago, the computer was being used by my brother and his friend.

The 2nd guy that you mentioned before is the guy that appears at my reading, it appears as someone who is waiting for someone's sadness to reap his happiness but don't think that bad of him as he might be the one that comfort you when you cry later.

he is thinking heavily considering many aspects.

please tell me the outcome of this situation.

viani
October 16, 2005, 18:23
i will,thanks saikyo....for the reading.en one more thing, do u think a relationship gonna be working if we still continue without his mom approval?just ask more likely as a opinion.

for the second guy,i know he's kind,etc....but really i never consider him more than friends,there is many his personality that i don't like even i hate it.he's a nice guy overall but still i don't think, we can nicely get along when i'm with him.

i will let u know about it,he'll coming back early november.....thanks again,saikyo.

thonythonythony
October 16, 2005, 18:30
tarot reader'e wong londo kie.... :hehe

kerbau08
October 17, 2005, 14:21
eh pake bahasa indonesia donk, biar gue bisa tanya nihh...:rolleyes: :rock

saikyo
October 17, 2005, 14:47
viani, can he live without his family and live just for you ? there are many realtionship that worked regardless their parent's approval, but it depends on their relationship, their commitment and their feeling toward each other. Many of this kind failed because they feel guilty for leaving their family.

If both of you get married (notice the "if") without his parents' aproval... imagine how he feel during your wedding.

All I can say is good luck, next is the reading for innosia when I had the time.

And to others... I can offer my service in indonesian language but not for free.

oh yeah, innosia, you're a programmer right ? working a certain software house with tight deadline right ? do a programmer has a career ? I don't think so. When a programmer has a career, they will be called "team leader" or "manager". A programmer can do freelance, then open a software house, but most of the time, they spent the whole time doing the marketing or managing and not programming. Then... why did you choose the path of a coder ?

innosia
October 18, 2005, 09:56
Though sometimes I think that my programming skill is quite sufficient, but in most cases in real world, I don't have the experience of business system, thats why I choose the path of a coder up until one day i think that my knowledge can handle standard business project such as customer relation management software, point of sales and so on.

The second reason why i choose this path is due to my lack of speaking skill, maybe sometimes I do speak very well in front of people, but when i am not in the mood i can't do speak even a complete sentence. Sometimes i think that why must i have this relationship with this person or customer, that's why i don't speak much and don't really wish to know people.

I think that my chances of becoming manager or leader is quite high, i can speak mandarin and english pretty well, and my boss is highly expecting me. Sometimes I work very hard but sometimes not, when i do work hard my mind must be worrying about future or money, when i am lazy, i am thinking that maybe i am dying tomorrow.

I dun really know what must i do, thanks for helping me viani

thonythonythony
October 19, 2005, 03:46
duh salah forum apa ya..?? :kakaka:
meni teu di waro aink mah....

nya' lah kagak aink nyarios we make bahasa sunda sakalian ameh lieur.....

atau sekarang baca tarot kudu mesti pake bahasa inggris yah..?? :hehe

Raden Mahesa
October 19, 2005, 03:54
program tarotnya bahasa inggirs kali...
klo njelasin pake b indo agak susah padanan-nya...

thonythonythony
October 19, 2005, 04:03
ow.. pake program..???
bukan pake kartu..??

wah... ini mesin tarot donk klo gtu..???

Raden Mahesa
October 19, 2005, 04:30
wah? pake prgram?? masa thon?
demi apa luh?

gimana nih mas pembaca tarotnya?
baca tarotnya pake program atau pake kartubeneran? pake bhs inggris karena kamusnya bhs inggris atau emang jago bhs inggris?

tapi keren kok, daripda si 'itu' baca tarotnya seenak udelnya...
huahahahahahahahahahaha....

thonythonythony
October 19, 2005, 04:37
setahu ga buat jadi seorang tarotologist gak ada aturan baku kok..!!!

kita gak bisa nilai ohh.. dia expert, yang satu enggak.... kalo kita cuma penonton... bukan pemain...

IMHO ya, soalnya saya dapat dari GM'nya langsung kata2 seperti itu...

Ya seperti ada tuh, yang selalu ikut kata2 gurunya.... padahal.... :kakaka:

Raden Mahesa
October 19, 2005, 04:44
padahal apa?

thonythonythony
October 19, 2005, 04:48
any connection w/ u ..????

i'm not talking bout you....

thonythonythony
October 19, 2005, 04:49
jangan curious gtu deh mau tau lanjutannya ya.... huahahahahhahahahahahhaha :kakaka:

Raden Mahesa
October 19, 2005, 04:54
wei..!!!
kita OOT loh thon...
istigpar....

anyway pertanyaan saya masih nunggu jawabannya mas pembaca tarot ya...

innosia
October 19, 2005, 12:16
sampeian2 gmn sih, diminta pakai bhs inggris ya kitanya sopan lah jadi pake bhs inggris juga...

kecuali guru2 besar seperti bapak2 ingin membuka thread yg juga meramal tapi pake bhs indonesia pasti aku ikut nimbrung deh.

Oh ya pak Mahesa serius ga kenal sama Gus Ulin Nuha ya? Beliau itu seorang paranormal kenalanku dulu pas rapat forum paranormal. Beliau waktu itu sebut nama pak Mahesa loh!

saikyo
October 19, 2005, 13:51
such appreciation for a genuine tarot reader like me. Have you even tried a tarot reading software ? You might be surprised when you try one. I have tried, so you go and try, then compare it with my reading for viani. If you really convinced that a tarot reading software is better than me then gimme that software, I will learn from it.

I have 3 decks : Parrott Tarot, Universal Waite, and Celtic Dragon Tarot. And I can give you a tutorial on how to use one.

Why don't I use Indonesian ? because I got used to reading for foreign people. Besides it is my marketing strategy, how many of you can read and write in english fluently ? If you want me to do a reading for you in indonesian then it is a premium service I can offer,

Please don't spam, this is an area for somebody who is need of a reading, personal question should be directed to the person using private message, besides the concept of a forum is all speak to all.

one reading for you thonyami, you might be expecting something to come, try to look around as "somebody might stab you at your back" resulting a failure on what you expected. mind you, it is a figure of speech.

and for you innosia, you might feel like lazy right now, not spirited is the better word for you. You need to love your work more, as it affect the quality of your work and your mood.

silverfox
October 20, 2005, 15:11
Dear Saikyo, I've never had any experiences with tarot before. I surfed on your thread accidentally and wonder whether you could do some tarot readings for me. Well, I'm 25, female, piscean. And I'd like to know when I'll find my soulmate. Have I met him but not realized he's the one or is he somewhere out there and I should take my time and let him find me?
As for the number, I choose number 2 since I'm the second child of the family. When the time is right, please do the reading for me. Thx.

MR.SENSI-BANGET
October 20, 2005, 15:20
yaahhhh...kalo blom waktunya mah taro kata biar itu soulmate adalah tetangga elu juga ngga bakalan dia jatoh cinta ama elu...

:kabur:

Raden Mahesa
October 21, 2005, 01:38
waaahhh....
keren deh mas pembaca tarot...
ya silahkan dilanjut baca tarotnya!
semangat ya!

-moderator-

saikyo
October 29, 2005, 17:57
Dear Silverfox, one card for you is 3 of wands... which may mean.. keep looking. A soulmate in my definition is your other part, which means only you can sense it but you cannot force it. I believe in force of nature, which means that when the time is right you'll get together forever.

silverfox
November 01, 2005, 13:40
Dear Saikyo,
I'm sorry, but what do you mean by I can sense it but cannot force it? I've no idea. I've never forced or been forced for a relationship. Of course when the time is right we'll find our soulmate. So, in other words you'd say that I haven't met him and should wait for... er let's say a year or two before finding the right one? And well, just curious, do you think he's Indonesian or foreigner? Btw thx for the reading; I really appreciate it.

saikyo
November 01, 2005, 15:13
you can sense your soulmate but you cannot force yourself into sensing it.

For instance...
A boy named Q, worked at a certain company, then all of a sudden he met his soulmate, he can sense that she is his soulmate suddenly its just like suddenly saying "I know she's the one that I will marry"

A boy named S, have a schoomate named V, he love her very much that he decide that V is his soulmate, he carved in his mind that V is his soulmate

Q sense his, S forced his.

I know that you really hope that you have a foregner as your husband, but keep hoping, when the time comes you will know the answer.

digdjaya
November 02, 2005, 19:00
Hi,
just straight to my prblms,
I am a male 23 years old, I have a relationship with a girl who is 22 years old. I have been with her for about almost 4 months.
I felt insecure with our relationship because the beginning of our relationship was not good. We have an affair before before she became my girlfriend. At that time , she alredy had a boyfriend who also my friend. Because I felt bad with this kind of rltnship. I asked her to choose between me or her boyfriend. At the end, She decided to choosed me, and break out with her ex. However, she accepted me with the requirement that we keep our rltnship backstreet from our friends till her ex had a new girl (because we did not want to hurt her ex)

And now, she also had a problem with her feeling on me, she evaluated our relationship. She told me that she did'nt sure with her feeling towards me. :(

Ok, now my question is what do you think with my relationship with her? Do my relationship with her will survive in long period or not?

For the number, I choose number 3,,

Just ask me, if you need more specific info,,

Thanks anyway,,

silverfox
November 03, 2005, 11:30
Originally posted by saikyo
you can sense your soulmate but you cannot force yourself into sensing it.

For instance...
A boy named Q, worked at a certain company, then all of a sudden he met his soulmate, he can sense that she is his soulmate suddenly its just like suddenly saying "I know she's the one that I will marry"

A boy named S, have a schoomate named V, he love her very much that he decide that V is his soulmate, he carved in his mind that V is his soulmate

Q sense his, S forced his.

I know that you really hope that you have a foregner as your husband, but keep hoping, when the time comes you will know the answer.

Ok, thx for your explanation. Yeah, you're right. I used to hope to get a foreigner as my future husband. One last question, how long should I wait to meet the right one? Well, not to get marry just to meet. As you told me I could sense my soulmate, but so far my feeling towards relationship doesn't work. Thx.

saikyo
November 16, 2005, 16:19
digdjaya, thank you for your explanation, what is your sign and preferably your shio ?

and to silverfox, when will you meet your soulmate is the question that I cannot answer, let the time flow and enjoy your life to the fullest.

Its been 2 weeks since my last visit, it has been a very busy moment, I will keep reading for you WG ers whenever the time permits.

Kakakukukoko
November 18, 2005, 03:21
Hi.... Just straight to my questions,ok! I am an aries girl and i'm 18 years old (hehe...still young...:D) As you can see, I'm not in my country (indonesia) right now. But i'm still having a -long distance- relationship with a boy who is 17 years old. We've been dating for around 2 months. I just want to know about what do you think of my relationship with him... Are we going to have a long lasting relationship? I choose number 3... Thx..

digdjaya
November 19, 2005, 04:51
my sign is aqua and my shio is dog,,,,

saikyo
November 25, 2005, 16:21
sorry haven't got the time to focus on your question.

I ll go on a trip to central java for 4 days, If your question is already answered, please inform me.

sintawati
December 03, 2005, 15:29
Hi Saikyo,

I'm very interested with your thread. Hope you could help me. Let me share you my problem. I'm female, 26-years, born august 9. Since you ask a number, I'll choose 7.
I always work in a big company (thx to God :D). But still I feel uncertain. Do you think I have made a right decision to stay in my current company. I have a better career than my husband, hope he could have a better one than me soon. Could this be come true since I don't want to be the head in our family. What our economic life would be if I may know?
One last question, sometimes I have a dream that I were somebody else in a life that I never know. Then I will be very exhausted when I wake up. I don't know why, but I want to leave this habit. Can I?
I would be very grateful if you could answer all my questions. Many thanks in advance.

saikyo
December 04, 2005, 06:49
What's your husband's sign ?

I think he's still in search of what he is capable of.

I see domination, you should have supported him, that will let him unleash his potential. You have a big ambition, bigger than him but a family is a team, you should have control over your ambition and work as team together with your husband. Be content with what you have, and slowly but sure proceeding into a better future with your husband.

To others : please choose the number between 0 and 3

saikyo
December 04, 2005, 06:59
Then about the constant dream, try controlling the amount of work that you do during the day, have a constant amount of rest, controlling your ambition will help.

Who is the person that you be on your dream ? how different is it from you are right now ? and how different is it with your goal (ambition) ?

To others whose question is not yet answered , please restate your question, its been some weeks since you give the question, restating (not copy pasting and not quoting) will help see your current situation better. And choose a new number between 0 and 3.

And I should tell all of you that would like to ask a question, please don't try asking to read several question at once such as "I want to know about my love, career, soulmate, money and family past, present and future", I will ignore this kind of question.

sintawati
December 05, 2005, 08:00
Hi Saikyo,

Thanks. I think I get your point. Yes you are right I was an ambitious person until I'm married. I believe that's why I could achieve my position right now. However I really would like to slow down now but I have to wait until my husband's career has been settled. He is a cancer, born on July 1.
And yes some people have told me that he could be a succesful person but need big support for me. Well that's a tough job since I always rely on my own for everything I do. But I have and still trird to be supportive :D
Could you give me a clue what kind of career is suitable for me or him (that if you don't mind to answer the question).

About my dream, I lost someone that I think I never know or met in real life. But it hurts me so much. I don't know why. I hope the dream were not represented people I care about.

Thanks anyway for giving me a good advice :)

saikyo
December 07, 2005, 15:30
A Leo married with a Cancer ? please love him with all your might...

please don't get discouragesd with what i m going to say

Leo is a sign whose elemental is fire, a leo seldom likes to start something, rather continuing something than to start. Everyone whose elemental sign is fire has passion, ambition

A cancer is water, an emotional one but likes to start something.... and very implulsive. actually a cancer's antitype is leo... I got a brother whose sign is cancer and a cousin whose sign is leo and they fight...

You need to understand his feeling, what he want and what he does not, and you need to slow down, to the same pace as him. While he has to to control his emotion.

ok enough about relationship, (sorry to read this without being asked, you might need this)

next is career

saikyo
December 07, 2005, 15:42
the card that represent you 5 of wands, an ambitious person, without fear seeking completion.

the card that represent him is 2 of cups, a calm nature, people do not know what is in his mind, what he is capable of, once he has control, he might be faster than anyone else toward his goal.

What kind of career that is suitable for you ?

it depends on your characteristic, you need a goal that you believe you can reach and you will work toward it. he need a job in which he can be recognized and he is capable of, something that he can learn to control, perhaps a management job is suitable for him but only if he can control his emotion and his implulsive behaviour.

The card for you 2 is the chariot, it means control, it pictured a warrior in a chariot with 2 powerful creatures which has an opposite color and perhaps an opposite personality. If cannot be controlled then the warrior will not be able to reach his goal, BUT if can be controlled then its most likely that the warrior may get back to his country with victory and gains recognition from his king.

trying to be supportive is not enough, you have to be supportive. you must work together.

saikyo
December 07, 2005, 16:59
alone, both of you don't have the quality to start a business, you have the ambition to succeeded but not having the strength to recover from losses while he have the patient needed but do not have the vision nor the power to move forward but together, you have all it takes to do business, all you need is teamwork.

sintawati
December 09, 2005, 13:48
Hi Saikyo,

This is very cool and so true. I've told my husband and he agreed with me. Gut luck for you, hope this thread could be useful for anyone else too.

best regards,
me

Kakakukukoko
December 17, 2005, 20:36
Hello saikyo.....I want to ask something to you (this is the 2nd time.... ;D ) I'm currently living in USA, but i'm still having a long distance relationship with a boy (he's 17 years old). I'm an aries girl and I'm 18 years old. So, what do you think of my relationship with him? Am I going to have a long lasting relationship with him? I choose number 2. Thanks.

saikyo
December 18, 2005, 17:16
since this is a relationship issue and involve both person, I need his zodiac too :) otherwise I can only give you a view from your side only

saikyo
December 19, 2005, 14:04
btw, because of a certain circumstance, I will not be able to read anymore for an undefinite amount of time. The last time I can give a reading is Friday night 23 Dec 2005,. Feel free to ask before that and if the time permit, I will answer.

Kakakukukoko
December 20, 2005, 01:05
hi saikyo.......Since he was born on January 30, so i think his zodiac sign is aquarius (if i'm not wrong....:bingung: ) Thanks.... :)

saikyo
December 20, 2005, 17:04
Aries and Capricorn, should not be a problem, but both are strong header so be sure to know when to fight for your will and when not to, that is the key, I hope tomorrow I can give you more deeper reading :D

Kakakukukoko
December 20, 2005, 20:07
Wait.....wait.....i think he's aquarius, not capricorn....;D Hehe....thanks... I'm looking forward for your deeper reading....:D

aquarius
December 20, 2005, 22:01
http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/acquarius.htm

saikyo
December 21, 2005, 14:19
argh my mistake, sorry i was dizzy at the time of the last posting.

This might be my last tarot reading here.

Is this your 1st relationship ? well there is no incompatibility problem and as an aries, you put your ambition #1, of course you went to usa because you're smart enough to get a better education there. At 1st you're struggling, you want to see him but you can't, and you cannot hug him too, but you will need to control your emotion as well as your passion.

This relationship will be decided by how mature both of you and how both of you endure the waiting which now is the primary concern. Even though no incompatibility problem but distance is a problem and you might not be able to maintain this relationship for long.

People surround you think that you made the right decision to go to USA and I agree with them.

In short, without patience, this relationship is hard to maintain.

Kakakukukoko
December 21, 2005, 20:59
Originally posted by saikyo
Is this your 1st relationship ?

nope.....This is my....uhm....3rd relationship..... So, the only problem I have now is the long distance? hmm......this is an additional question from me.....so, if u can't answer it, that's ok.... Well, u're right about how much I miss him.... But, how about from his side? Do u know something? Well, that's all I want to ask....And thanks for the reading....:bravo: Have a good day.... :)

only_me
January 13, 2006, 08:58
i'm libra and i prefer no.3,i'm 18 years old girl
i just want to ask bout my university life,,will it go smoothly? or i will get a lot of temptation on it?and bout my carrier after i finish my undergraduate programme,,

tx a lot

ez_rockstar
January 25, 2006, 08:20
alowww

saikyo
February 28, 2006, 02:32
sorry for the time being i cannot do any tarot reading, i will let you know when i can do a reading again.

wishing you all the best of luck

h34p_h@p
April 09, 2006, 05:44
coba dech ramal pake kartu tarot di www.tarot.com

pake yg free aj, maksudny yg g usah bayar...

ak nyoba ngramal disana tp g ngerti artiny..hbs english-an gt seeh..

adakah org yg berbaik hati men-translate-kan hasil ramalanku????

http://www.aim-dollz.com/images/dolls/Other/Other8423.gif

thonythonythony
April 11, 2006, 08:37
Originally posted by Q`tee
ada yg tau gak cerita pasti di blk misteri kartu tarot?

gua pengen belajar cara baca kartu tarot, cuma denger2 katanya tiap seri kartu tuh ada kutukannya sendiri gitu yah?

gak benar.... tarot terlepas dari segala macam mistik dan klenik....

cairns_aussie
April 21, 2006, 05:29
kalo ada yg mau tarot bisa kok aku kirim di australia banyak loh yg jual kartu ini plus juga ama cara membaca tuh kartu,aku juga seorang pemain kartu tarot sih cuma nih kartu tdk jahat kok asal yg punya kartunya mau menjaga diri dari omongan dan kelakuan ug keji

h34p_h@p
April 21, 2006, 06:45
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
kalo ada yg mau tarot bisa kok aku kirim di australia banyak loh yg jual kartu ini plus juga ama cara membaca tuh kartu,aku juga seorang pemain kartu tarot sih cuma nih kartu tdk jahat kok asal yg punya kartunya mau menjaga diri dari omongan dan kelakuan ug keji

emg nyampe brp hargany ??

cairns_aussie
April 26, 2006, 05:18
TERGANTUNG DARI NAMA TAROT YG MAU KAMU BELI,SEPERTI JENIS OLD ENGLISH DAN MOTHERPEACE TAROT HARGANYA 40 DOLLAR AUSTRALIA KALO DI INDONESIA SEKITAR 260.000.TAPI ADA JUGA SIH YG MURAH CUMA ENERGI KARTUNYA KURANG DASHYAT.

thonythonythony
April 29, 2006, 13:30
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
kalo ada yg mau tarot bisa kok aku kirim di australia banyak loh yg jual kartu ini plus juga ama cara membaca tuh kartu,aku juga seorang pemain kartu tarot sih cuma nih kartu tdk jahat kok asal yg punya kartunya mau menjaga diri dari omongan dan kelakuan ug keji


alooo cairns.. :waves:

deck yang kmu pake apa..?? :)
aku pake thoth... {)

thonythonythony
April 29, 2006, 13:34
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
TAPI ADA JUGA SIH YG MURAH CUMA ENERGI KARTUNYA KURANG DASHYAT.


yang dahsyat itu yang gimana ya cairns..??

misalnya deck apa aja tuh...?? :)

gladiezt_maniez
April 29, 2006, 15:35
kata na thony bisa main tarot?

mo dunk di ramal.......

heuheuheue

thonythonythony
April 29, 2006, 16:21
gak bisa meramal...

maaf aku bukan peramal.... {)

cairns_aussie
April 30, 2006, 02:58
aku pakai old englesh tarot sama african tarot,but yg african tarot ini jarang aku pakai kalo tdk mendesak sekali soalnya african tarot ini agak ganas energinya jadi aku malas pakainya cuam paten sih kalo lagi liat sesuatu ttng hidup seseorang di kartu ini keluar semua apa yg kita mau tau tentang seseorang itu,dan aku juga pakai motherpeace tarot,aku kurang tau deh di indo di jual apa tdk jenis ini soalnya aku juga di kasih sama maddammardova dari egypt karto motherpeace ini,cukup tua memang kartu ini,tapi buat kalian yg punya kartu tarot kalo mau energinya lebih mengenal kita kalo bisa sebelum di pakai setelah beli atau di kasih seseorang tarotnya itu di puasaain 3 hari,udah ya gini aja info aku kalo ada pertanyaan lagi boleh aku jawab lain kali kalo aku online itu juga kalo bisa aku bantu ya aku jawab.

cairns_aussie
April 30, 2006, 03:05
buat hapsari_cuantik,bukannya aku sok tau ya tapi aku cuma mau bilang kalo tarot yg kamu maksud di www.tarot.com.bisa aja aku artikan dari englesh ke indonesia buat kamu cuma aku kan kaga tau data lengkap kamu dan di website itu cuma permainan aja loh jadi jawabannya tdk betul betul sah karna itu tdk ada aura energy tarotnya kecuali kamu bersentuhan tangan kamu dng tarot itu sendiri baru kamu akan jelas tenatnag jalan kehidupan kamu masa lampau dan masa sekarang.

cairns_aussie
April 30, 2006, 03:07
thonythony,aku mau dunk beli tarot ala indonesia itu,list pricenya berapa,,,bisa tdk bantu aku minta infonya lebih lengkap dong????thanks ya

gladiezt_maniez
April 30, 2006, 05:32
gmn seh cara main kartu tarot?

selalu tepat kah?

atw tergantung org na?

thonythonythony
April 30, 2006, 22:22
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
aku pakai old englesh tarot sama african tarot,but yg african tarot ini jarang aku pakai kalo tdk mendesak sekali soalnya african tarot ini agak ganas energinya jadi aku malas pakainya cuam paten sih kalo lagi liat sesuatu ttng hidup seseorang di kartu ini keluar semua apa yg kita mau tau tentang seseorang itu,dan aku juga pakai motherpeace tarot,aku kurang tau deh di indo di jual apa tdk jenis ini soalnya aku juga di kasih sama maddammardova dari egypt karto motherpeace ini,cukup tua memang kartu ini,tapi buat kalian yg punya kartu tarot kalo mau energinya lebih mengenal kita kalo bisa sebelum di pakai setelah beli atau di kasih seseorang tarotnya itu di puasaain 3 hari,udah ya gini aja info aku kalo ada pertanyaan lagi boleh aku jawab lain kali kalo aku online itu juga kalo bisa aku bantu ya aku jawab.

ic... :)
african TAROT berkisar berapa harganya..??

klo mother piece, ada jualannya gak..??

thonythonythony
April 30, 2006, 22:31
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
thonythony,aku mau dunk beli tarot ala indonesia itu,list pricenya berapa,,,bisa tdk bantu aku minta infonya lebih lengkap dong????thanks ya


maksud kamu TAROT WAYANG???

disini harganya berkisar 300 rb'an (latest update)
belum termasuk ongkos kirim ya... :)
klo di kurs'kan ke Aussie Dollar kira2 brp?

info lebih lengkap bisa lihat di search di google "TAROT WAYANG"

nanti buka yang HOMEPAGEnya langsung... :)

gladiezt_maniez
May 02, 2006, 09:27
hemmmm........

thonythonythony
May 02, 2006, 11:33
hem hemmmm.... :haha

cairns_aussie
May 05, 2006, 07:17
gladizt-maniz,,,main tarot tuh sebenarnya gampang gampang susah soalnya tergantung dari kemauan kita buat belajar itu bagi yg tdk punya indra ke 6,tapi kalo yg punya indra keenam biasanya tergantung dari moodnya si pemegang trot itu sendiri dan juga tarot tuh tepat kok pengelihatannya tapi seseorang yg ingin melihat kehidupannya di tarot itu harus percaya sepenuhnya kalo separuh hati untuk percaya ya mungkin buat yg di liat itu tdk tepat.

cairns_aussie
May 05, 2006, 07:24
yup tarot wayang,,thanks ya atas websitenya nanti aku buka,,soal african tarot harganya sekitar 650$ aust kalo di into sekitar 3.900.000 rupiah,cuma jenis ini juga jarang loh di jual soalnya pemain jenis inin harus tau cara cara baca mantra khusus asli africa gitu,kalo aku sih beli ini karna aku di kasih sama teman satu kelas di sekolah magic of world dan teman ku ini asli orang africa trus dia kasih mantra buat aku dan suruh beli tarot ini,emang benar bagus tapi ganas energynya kadang2 kalo aku tidur aja suka datang energynya aku suka takut sendiri terkadang,maklum aku belum lulus dari sekolah magic gitu jadinya belom top banget mengontrol ketakutan liat ghost gitu.

cairns_aussie
May 05, 2006, 07:28
soal motherpeace tarot,kalo di sini juga jarang tuh di jual soalnya langka sih jenis ini,banyak loh jenis tarot yg langka biasanya yg langka itu mengandung arti banyak sekali energynya buat kita liat tentang kehidupan seseorang masa lampau dan masa sekarang bahkan kita bisa liat seberapa dekatnya goal and destiny kita juga inner emotion seseorang itu.

gladiezt_maniez
May 05, 2006, 07:37
owww..........

jadi musti pny indra ke6 ya?

susah jg ya.........

klo feel doank gmn?

cairns_aussie
May 06, 2006, 08:57
gladiz_maniz,nggak juga ah,kan aku bilang susah susah gampang kalo main tarot BAGI YG TDK PUNYA INDRA KE 6,itu berarti mainnya kita pakai feeling,dan kita harus mengerti apa sih simbol pada setiap kartu itu artinya,trus gimana cara nyusun rasi bintangnya tarot itu tapi menyusunnya juga tergantung jenis tarot apa yg di pakai,karna tdk semua kartu tarot tuh sama untuk menyusunnya,jadi coba aja mainkan tarot yg kamu udah bisa ngerti semua artinya dari simbol tarot yg kamu mainkan,dan untuk belajar tarot tuh cukup lama loh untuk mengerti dari setiap simbol nya,apalagi kalo yg jenisnya langka wah susah banget deh ngertiin artinya itu.oh ya aku ada saran nih coba aja belajar dulu liat sisi kehidupan kamu dng kartu black jack yg biasa orang buat main judi itu loh,itu juga kalo kamu ngerti artinya dari setiap angka2 kartu itu,cuma kalo untuk belajar liat dng kartu itu enak juga loh,cara susunnya kamu pakai yg ini aja,1 samapi 8 susun di mulai dari 1 kartu di susunan pertama kedua 1 kartu dan begitu seterusnya samapai 9 kartu,di jadikan 8 susun.selamat mencoba ya,,,kalo tdk tau arti dari nomernya email aku aja nanti aku kasih tau artinya.itu juga kalo akmu mau,,kalo tdk ya tdk apa apa.

cairns_aussie
May 06, 2006, 09:01
gladiz_maniz maksud aku kartu remi gitu loh,itu juga bisa di pakai buat liat sisi kehidupan cuma jangan kartunya itu habis buat main judi kalo bisa beli baru aja kartunya,trus kalo bisa waktu beli jangan si pedagang pegang kartu itu kalo bisa waktu kamu beli suruh si penjual pakai kantong pelastik tangannya buat ambil kartu itu trus yg boleh pegang kartu itu ya cuma kamu...itu saran aku kalo kamu mau liat sisi kehidupan mu,memang kurang komplit kalo liat pakai kartu remi tapi asyik kok kalo cuma baut iseng2 aja liatnya.

thonythonythony
May 09, 2006, 15:49
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
yup tarot wayang,,thanks ya atas websitenya nanti aku buka,,soal african tarot harganya sekitar 650$ aust kalo di into sekitar 3.900.000 rupiah,cuma jenis ini juga jarang loh di jual soalnya pemain jenis inin harus tau cara cara baca mantra khusus asli africa gitu,kalo aku sih beli ini karna aku di kasih sama teman satu kelas di sekolah magic of world dan teman ku ini asli orang africa trus dia kasih mantra buat aku dan suruh beli tarot ini,emang benar bagus tapi ganas energynya kadang2 kalo aku tidur aja suka datang energynya aku suka takut sendiri terkadang,maklum aku belum lulus dari sekolah magic gitu jadinya belom top banget mengontrol ketakutan liat ghost gitu.


aku lihat di TAROT.com dan US.Games web,
African TAROT cuma 280.000 klo dikurskan ke rupiah.... :)

kalau kamu masih terpengaruh energinya, berarti kamu masih berada dalam ruang makrokosmosnya saja... mikronya harus diseimbangkan / di balance kan tuh... :):)

cairns_aussie
May 10, 2006, 09:54
ya mungkin ahrganya segitu kalo di kurs kan di rupiah tapi disini harganya nya segitu loh dan aku bilang energinya kuat banget karna aku juga pakai baca mantra asli africa nya itu makanya aku juga ikut nyesal soalnya jadi kemakan buat aku karna sering di datangin yg aneh aneh gitu dari kartunya itu,kalo cuma main aja sih pakai kartu itu ya nggak apa apa tapi masalahnya aku sudah ikutin aturan mainnya yg pakai amntra asli africanya itu.

gladiezt_maniez
May 10, 2006, 15:15
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
gladiz_maniz,nggak juga ah,kan aku bilang susah susah gampang kalo main tarot BAGI YG TDK PUNYA INDRA KE 6,itu berarti mainnya kita pakai feeling,dan kita harus mengerti apa sih simbol pada setiap kartu itu artinya,trus gimana cara nyusun rasi bintangnya tarot itu tapi menyusunnya juga tergantung jenis tarot apa yg di pakai,karna tdk semua kartu tarot tuh sama untuk menyusunnya,jadi coba aja mainkan tarot yg kamu udah bisa ngerti semua artinya dari simbol tarot yg kamu mainkan,dan untuk belajar tarot tuh cukup lama loh untuk mengerti dari setiap simbol nya,apalagi kalo yg jenisnya langka wah susah banget deh ngertiin artinya itu.oh ya aku ada saran nih coba aja belajar dulu liat sisi kehidupan kamu dng kartu black jack yg biasa orang buat main judi itu loh,itu juga kalo kamu ngerti artinya dari setiap angka2 kartu itu,cuma kalo untuk belajar liat dng kartu itu enak juga loh,cara susunnya kamu pakai yg ini aja,1 samapi 8 susun di mulai dari 1 kartu di susunan pertama kedua 1 kartu dan begitu seterusnya samapai 9 kartu,di jadikan 8 susun.selamat mencoba ya,,,kalo tdk tau arti dari nomernya email aku aja nanti aku kasih tau artinya.itu juga kalo akmu mau,,kalo tdk ya tdk apa apa.
gladiz_maniz maksud aku kartu remi gitu loh,itu juga bisa di pakai buat liat sisi kehidupan cuma jangan kartunya itu habis buat main judi kalo bisa beli baru aja kartunya,trus kalo bisa waktu beli jangan si pedagang pegang kartu itu kalo bisa waktu kamu beli suruh si penjual pakai kantong pelastik tangannya buat ambil kartu itu trus yg boleh pegang kartu itu ya cuma kamu...itu saran aku kalo kamu mau liat sisi kehidupan mu,memang kurang komplit kalo liat pakai kartu remi tapi asyik kok kalo cuma baut iseng2 aja liatnya.

nah habis disusun gt.....

trus gmn?perasaaan ribet bgt ya mo beli kartu doank.....

cr main na gmn?

thonythonythony
May 10, 2006, 15:30
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
ya mungkin ahrganya segitu kalo di kurs kan di rupiah tapi disini harganya nya segitu loh dan aku bilang energinya kuat banget karna aku juga pakai baca mantra asli africa nya itu makanya aku juga ikut nyesal soalnya jadi kemakan buat aku karna sering di datangin yg aneh aneh gitu dari kartunya itu,kalo cuma main aja sih pakai kartu itu ya nggak apa apa tapi masalahnya aku sudah ikutin aturan mainnya yg pakai amntra asli africanya itu.

kmu terlalu dipengaruhi makrokosmos.... :)
sehingga segala sesuatunya tampak berlebihan.... {)

padahal seharusnya, bukan KARTU yang mengatur,mempengaruhi kita...
tapi, kita adalah THE MASTER dari kartu kita.... :)

gladiezt_maniez
May 10, 2006, 15:45
hheueheu........

ngeliatn thony ama aussie ngobrol ah......:hmmm:

thonythonythony
May 10, 2006, 15:57
jayus loe!!! :haha :kakaka:

gladiezt_maniez
May 11, 2006, 12:39
huhuhuhu...:haha

hd123
May 11, 2006, 13:50
rasanya ga masuk akal dech selembar kartu tarot, yg dibikin oleh manusia juga, kok malah nentuin hdp manusia? hehe...3x aneh aja sih.... takut pada ciptaan sendiri...... ??? just in my opinion

europe
May 11, 2006, 15:13
thon.. 2kali yaG.. nanti tgl 19 n 24.. ::hehe

thonythonythony
May 11, 2006, 16:40
Originally posted by hd123
rasanya ga masuk akal dech selembar kartu tarot, yg dibikin oleh manusia juga, kok malah nentuin hdp manusia? hehe...3x aneh aja sih.... takut pada ciptaan sendiri...... ??? just in my opinion


bagus sekali pertanyaan, atau pernyataan'nya.... :)

TAROT sendiri sebenarnya bukan utk menakut2i...

pengibarat'an TAROT spt ini :

misalkan, didunia ini tidak ada benda yang bernama 'cermin', maka yang bisa melihat diri kita adalah orang lain/teman kita....

begitu juga dengan TAROT, karena banyak unsur dalam diri kita, banyak sisi lain dari diri kita,dan tidak semua dari kita mengetahui sisi lain itu, maka TAROT adalah 'cermin' kita....

bukan meramal melalui TAROT...
dan TAROT tidak menentukan hidup manusia.... :)

yang menetukan hidup manusia itu, adalah manusia itu sendiri.... (terlepas dari adanya kehendakNya....)

semuanya kembali kepada hukum sebab-akibat..... {){)

thonythonythony
May 11, 2006, 16:44
Originally posted by tomz morello
thon.. 2kali yaG.. nanti tgl 19 n 24.. ::hehe


liat aja nti..... ;D
2 kali bawa 'sesajen' buat gwe yakkk... :haha

gladiezt_maniez
May 12, 2006, 12:08
Originally posted by thonythonythony
bagus sekali pertanyaan, atau pernyataan'nya.... :)

TAROT sendiri sebenarnya bukan utk menakut2i...

pengibarat'an TAROT spt ini :

misalkan, didunia ini tidak ada benda yang bernama 'cermin', maka yang bisa melihat diri kita adalah orang lain/teman kita....

begitu juga dengan TAROT, karena banyak unsur dalam diri kita, banyak sisi lain dari diri kita,dan tidak semua dari kita mengetahui sisi lain itu, maka TAROT adalah 'cermin' kita....

bukan meramal melalui TAROT...
dan TAROT tidak menentukan hidup manusia.... :)

yang menetukan hidup manusia itu, adalah manusia itu sendiri.... (terlepas dari adanya kehendakNya....)

semuanya kembali kepada hukum sebab-akibat..... {){)


cieeeeeeee.......

master tarot ne....

sense na neh....:haha

hidup thony...[ole]

hd123
May 12, 2006, 12:48
apa pun di hadapan kita selalu ada pilihan bisa satu dua tidak bahkan ga terhitung hehe...3x
tp tiap pilihan kan ada resiko, klo kita bisa ya jalani dengan resiko nya....

misal kondisi nya "broken heart" tar ada pilihan

1 meratapi
resiko : sedih berkepanjangan en ga ada jln keluar
2 cari lagi
resiko: gw bisa happy lg, atau gw bisa patah hati lg
3 sendiri dulu
resiko : gw akan sepi ga punya doi, tapi gw ga patah hati en gw bisa lanjtin hdp gw dll

dr 3 pilihan itu terserah qta yg mo pilih,

kartu tarot sbnrnya ga melakukan apa2 sih, cuma membantu intropeksi diri hehe..3x
waktu dapet kartu jelek, elo sendirikan apa sih yg jelek disekitar elo
waktu daper kartu baik, elo sendiri jg yg mikir apa yang baik sekitar elo
waktu dapet kartu biasa, elo kalem2 aja ga melakukan apa2 hehe..3x tp pasti kartu ini jarang.... hehe..3x

just in my opinion

thonythonythony
May 12, 2006, 15:08
Originally posted by hd123
kartu tarot sbnrnya ga melakukan apa2 sih, cuma membantu intropeksi diri hehe..3x
waktu dapet kartu jelek, elo sendirikan apa sih yg jelek disekitar elo
waktu daper kartu baik, elo sendiri jg yg mikir apa yang baik sekitar elo
waktu dapet kartu biasa, elo kalem2 aja ga melakukan apa2 hehe..3x tp pasti kartu ini jarang.... hehe..3x

just in my opinion


gak juga....

kartu tarot justru yang melakukan apa2.... {){)

karena dia cermin itu... klo gak ada cerminnya, mau cermin dimana..??

dan semuanya'nya bukan hasil mikir... karena hasilnya nanti akan jadi subjektif.. bukan objektif....

kata siapa jarang keluar kartu yang biasa2 saja..???
dalam pengalamanku itu sering....

thonythonythony
May 12, 2006, 15:25
Originally posted by gladiezt_maniez
cieeeeeeee.......

master tarot ne....

sense na neh....:haha

hidup thony...[ole]


halah... halah....
aku bukan master....

karena mau kursus master biaya sertifikatnya mahal.... :haha :kakaka:

sense???? maksudnya diezt???

europe
May 15, 2006, 16:08
thon.. jln k jktnya kpn dikau..

thonythonythony
May 16, 2006, 06:52
18 sore, klo gak malem bro.... :)

knp? dah pengen ketemu gwe yak..?? :haha

sabar2, nti juga pasti ditarotin...
oya, tgl 19 tuh sptnya acaranya resmi banget bro..... :)

gladiezt_maniez
May 16, 2006, 12:30
tarot........

thon udah lom?

hd123
May 16, 2006, 13:45
cermin kan bagian dari intropeksi diri...... hehe..3x

europe
May 16, 2006, 18:04
kalo 19 gw ga bs.. y 24 nya d.. ::hehe

thonythonythony
May 16, 2006, 18:24
Originally posted by tomz morello
kalo 19 gw ga bs.. y 24 nya d.. ::hehe

sip.. :)

gladiezt_maniez
May 17, 2006, 10:37
tarot am cermin apa kaitan na?

aduh......

europe
May 19, 2006, 00:01
siap ga thon utk acaranya tar mlm ni.. ::hehe

okay then gluck bro..

meet ya there.. mate

gladiezt_maniez
May 20, 2006, 07:21
wei ada tomtot.....:hehe

thonythonythony
May 20, 2006, 11:14
Originally posted by gladiezt_maniez
tarot am cermin apa kaitan na?

aduh......


aukk ah males ngejelasinnya...

cari tau aja sana.... :haha

gladiezt_maniez
May 22, 2006, 14:18
thon,mana pesen nan ku.....

pasti lupa lage.....

thonythonythony
May 29, 2006, 03:02
sorry gwe baru balik ke rumah... :):)

nti yaa.... dah jadi kok... tenang aja.. PM gwe yak.. ingetin... :hehe

FieNaBizZaRe
May 29, 2006, 08:01
hai...salam kenal bwt penghuni thread ini

aq seorang tarot cousellor,yg nubi namun ingin belajar lebih jauh ttg Tarot...karena setelah menjadi Tarot Counsellor dan berprinsip u/ menolong orang aq jd ingin lebih tau ttg Tarot ini

aq pegang Tarot Art Nouveau yg bersifat global namun lbh spesifik bila membuka ttg karir...kalau biasanya aq sedang berkumpul di rumah tmpt perkumpulan Tarot :)

semoga perkenalan ini cukup klo ada yg ingin di tanya silahkan...makasih ^_^

thonythonythony
May 29, 2006, 09:34
salam kenal :waves:

wah indigo... ;D
mmgnya indigo tuh gmana ya..?? :D

domisili dimana..??

thonythonythony
May 29, 2006, 09:35
biasa kumpulnya dimana..????

indigo spt Vincet Liong dan Leonardo Rimba donk... :hehe

FieNaBizZaRe
May 29, 2006, 14:43
indigo itu satu acara di Tv swasta :D

tinggal di Tebet...seringnya seh kumpul brg di daerah Cibinong, tiap hari Kamis

Leonardo Rimba?yg sekolah Tarot di Luar negeri yuh?

thonythonythony
May 29, 2006, 16:29
oww....
kamu tau gak makna dari INDIGO itu sendiri..?? :)

luar negeri..??? :haha
kemarin aku bareng2 dia kok pas BATAVIA ART FESTIVAL di MUSEUM FATAHILAH....

kita di TAROT READING stand'nya... :):)

thonythonythony
May 29, 2006, 16:36
What is an indigo Child?

As a summary, here are the ten attributes that best describe this new kind of child, the Indigo Child

* They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
* They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
* Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
* They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
* They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
* They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
* They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
* They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
* They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
* They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

klo di ambil dari katanya sendiri, INDIGO adalah UNGU....

yang konon katanya anak indigo, mempunyai aura ungu, spiritual....

FieNaBizZaRe
May 31, 2006, 14:32
IC

bener ga seh soal tarot yg beli dgn tarot yg dtg sendiri atau diberikan oleh orang lain itu beda energinya?

dan apa sih reversed/shuffle???

saikyo
June 01, 2006, 03:27
tarot itu mau dibeli sendiri atau diberi orang itu sama saja, cuma sekedar kartu, nyawanya tergantung siapa yang membaca.

reversed itu keadaan dimana kartu ada dalam keadaan terbalik. Untuk pemula tidak disarankan pakai reversed.

Pemula disarankan membaca kartu dalam keadaan semua tegak untuk memahami makna dari 78 kartu. Penggunaan reversed membuat makna jadi ghanda yaitu 2x78 karena setiap kartu bisa dibalik.

pembalikan sebenarnya bisa secara mekanis atau secara ilmu.

saikyo
June 01, 2006, 03:39
maksudnya mekanis itu kl reversednya dilihat dari posisi kartu yang kadang sengaja dibalik.

Kl secara ilmu itu kalau dilihat dari elemen atau posisi atau gimana.

Contohnya :
3 cards spread

2 of Cups
3 of Wands
4 of Swords

di sini bisa dilihat bahwa Wands (fire) dan Sword (Air) berada di posisi kuat melawan Cups (water), sehingga bisa dibilang Cups nya dalam posisi reversed.

Atau mungkin bila ada posisi "Fear / Obstacles" kita bisa bilang bahwa kartu di posisi itu perlu dibaca arti reversed nya

FieNaBizZaRe
June 01, 2006, 06:46
kalo begitu pembacaannya jg berbeda dong??

apa berhubungan dgn tebarannya jg??

saikyo
June 01, 2006, 07:25
Originally posted by cairns_aussie
gladiz_maniz maksud aku kartu remi gitu loh,itu juga bisa di pakai buat liat sisi kehidupan cuma jangan kartunya itu habis buat main judi kalo bisa beli baru aja kartunya,trus kalo bisa waktu beli jangan si pedagang pegang kartu itu kalo bisa waktu kamu beli suruh si penjual pakai kantong pelastik tangannya buat ambil kartu itu trus yg boleh pegang kartu itu ya cuma kamu...itu saran aku kalo kamu mau liat sisi kehidupan mu,memang kurang komplit kalo liat pakai kartu remi tapi asyik kok kalo cuma baut iseng2 aja liatnya.

Minor Arkana itu 14 card per suite
Playing Card itu 13 card per suite

Minor Arkana = gabungan arti dari 2 Minor Arcana
(berdasarkan Astrologycal)

Contoh : 10 of Cups (Mars on Pisces)

Mars -> The Emperor
Pisces -> The Moon

The emperor itu simbol penguasaan atas segala sesuatu, the moon itu simbol dari impian. 10 of cups bisa berarti menguasai impian (tergantung konteks), arti logis nya adalah memiliki semua yang diinginkan. Got it ?

Perbedaan antara minor arkana dengan playing cards itu di court card saja, tidak ada princess atau page. Tetapi terkadang as dianggap court card tapi untuk ini tidak dianjurkan.

Tidak ada salahnya meramal pakai playing card, kalau tahu caranya.

saikyo
June 01, 2006, 07:29
Originally posted by FieNaBizZaRe
kalo begitu pembacaannya jg berbeda dong??

apa berhubungan dgn tebarannya jg??

jangan terikat dengan spread yang ada, spread hanya membantu saja. Tapi sebelum menguasai sistem spread, jangan dulu buat spread sendiri.

Reversed memang membuat kartu berarti berbeda. 2 of cups biasa diartikan sebagai kasih cinta, tapi dalam keadaan reversed, bisa dianggap tantangan dalam percintaan atau tindakan bodoh dalam percintaan.

saikyo
June 01, 2006, 07:32
Originally posted by ShivaShEeN
iya
tapi katanya beda2 loh tiap tarot cara biar diterimanya
ada yg musti disinarin ama sinar bulan lah
ada yg dipakein kaen item
tapi yg PAS banget ma gw,kyknya nyaman bgt gw mainin itu musti di bungkus pake kain putih,ditaro di dalem kotak kayu,dan kotak kayu itu ditaro salah satu barang milik kita,dan ga boleh dipinjemin.
jadinya tu tarot hanya mau ngasih liat kalo hanya kita yg megang,krn udah SAH jadi milik kita.

ada 2 cara pakai tarot, mau pakai logic atau mau pake indera ke 6 dengan bantuan roh roh juga. Kalau pakai logic, lupakan itu semua takhayul. Kalau mau pake roh2, kamu cuma perlu familiar dengan kartunya saja. Itu cuma kartu, jangan biarkan dirimu dikuasai oleh kartumu.

thonythonythony
June 02, 2006, 11:27
Originally posted by saikyo
jangan terikat dengan spread yang ada, spread hanya membantu saja. Tapi sebelum menguasai sistem spread, jangan dulu buat spread sendiri.




setuju.... :):)

Cindeutara
June 03, 2006, 04:34
Apa bedanya kartu tarot dengan ilmu statistik ? bikin program nya aja, ayo yang bisa bikin share dong ... :))

http://www.danasoft.com/sig/SetiabudiKuningan.jpg

thonythonythony
June 03, 2006, 17:29
dilihat secara keilmuan mungkin ada persamaan....

tetapi dilihat dari essence'nya jelas beda....
Ilmu Statistik adalah Ilmu pasti...

sedangkan tidak ada kepastian didalam TAROT... yang ada 'probability' / kemungkinan.... {){)

FieNaBizZaRe
June 03, 2006, 17:55
Originally posted by saikyo
jangan terikat dengan spread yang ada, spread hanya membantu saja. Tapi sebelum menguasai sistem spread, jangan dulu buat spread sendiri.

Reversed memang membuat kartu berarti berbeda. 2 of cups biasa diartikan sebagai kasih cinta, tapi dalam keadaan reversed, bisa dianggap tantangan dalam percintaan atau tindakan bodoh dalam percintaan.


klo soal spread aq kadang klo mau baca peta jiwa orang lewat Tarot selalu 5 spread atau secara global...tp tekadang apa yg aq liat tergantung kekuatan intuisi itu sendiri ga selalu terfokus dgn spread yg ada...so ga terlalu tergantung seh

dulu aq baca peta jiwa hanya lewat kartu remi tp apa yg aq liat di kartu remi itu bukan sekedar kartu tp seperti lg nonton film...apa yg terlihat disitu ya aq blg aja...nah mulai bulan kemaren aq mulai pegang kartu Tarot dan pembacaan Tarot ku pun cukup baik menurut teman" aq loh baik yg baru aq kenal maupun yg sudah lama..

saikyo
June 05, 2006, 04:15
sepertinya intuisimu sudah bagus ya ? cobalah ditambah dengan logic, and feel the difference. but it is one's choice and different for everybody right ?

kl aku pakai sistem trigger, jadi setiap kartu ada trigger. Trigger ini berupa perkataan.

Misal Fool itu trigger nya : Nothing
nanti jawabannya bisa terbuka dari trigger ini, trigger ini akan trigger pikiran dan intuisiku mengenai masalah yang dipertanyakan.

thonythonythony
June 05, 2006, 19:44
gwe makin setuju sama saikyo nih.... :hehe

logic mmg harus selalu mengiringi, gak hanya intuisi aja..
tapi bukan berarti kita malah menerka2 khan saikyo..?? :)

saikyo
June 16, 2006, 08:44
tentu saja bukan

tapi dasarnya intuisi itu terkaan ? hanya saja lebih akurat dari sekedar tebak menebak. Beginners guessing, Masters feeling, Experts seeing.

kita punya otak khan nggak kiri saja dan kanan saja, kenapa tidak sinergi saja ?

asunn
June 16, 2006, 09:38
gw kepengen belajar tarot juga ahh...ajarin donk...
kasih recommendation pake kartu apa..system mana
besok2 mau ganti professi jadi dukun hihihihih

thonythonythony
June 18, 2006, 10:47
Originally posted by saikyo
tentu saja bukan

tapi dasarnya intuisi itu terkaan ? hanya saja lebih akurat dari sekedar tebak menebak. Beginners guessing, Masters feeling, Experts seeing.

kita punya otak khan nggak kiri saja dan kanan saja, kenapa tidak sinergi saja ?

IMHO, intuisi, bukan terkaan... :):)

karena terkaan masuknya ke guessing khan..?? :hehe

wah, gwe masuk kemana yak..??
gak nebak, gak make feeling, dan gak liat apa2... ;D;D

pre-beginner kalee yak.. :haha

yup, itu dia yang gwe pake, sinergi otak kanan dan kiri.... {){)

thonythonythony
June 18, 2006, 10:51
Originally posted by asunn
gw kepengen belajar tarot juga ahh...ajarin donk...
kasih recommendation pake kartu apa..system mana
besok2 mau ganti professi jadi dukun hihihihih

sunn, kafe loe buat gwe yak.... :hehe
kita tukeran profesi.... :kakaka:

klo mau kenalan ma TAROT, bisa coba Raider White sunn... atau yang local, TAROT WAYANG.... :)

nomaden
June 19, 2006, 06:15
Tarot wayang?
buat promosi ya ton... hehehe

red_conjurer
June 20, 2006, 06:05
Tarot hanacaraka-nya mas Eddy udah keluar belom?

asunn
June 20, 2006, 15:54
Originally posted by thonythonythony
sunn, kafe loe buat gwe yak.... :hehe
kita tukeran profesi.... :kakaka:

klo mau kenalan ma TAROT, bisa coba Raider White sunn... atau yang local, TAROT WAYANG.... :)


waduh thon elo ada2x aja hehehehhe
justru sekarang di cafe ini banyak celebrity lokal (ada market) heheh bisa dijadiin salah satu additional income bwakakkakak makanya latihan dulu... di bulletin tinggal dipasang aja pengumumannya hihihihhihi

sekali nyebur ke kali...dapet tali pinggang croccodille ;p

selain itu yah gw bersyukur intuisi akhir2x ini makin kencang aja...jadi udah saatnya bermaen2 games tarot bwakakakka

asunn
namaste

thonythonythony
June 22, 2006, 10:54
Originally posted by nomaden
Tarot wayang?
buat promosi ya ton... hehehe

promosi..?? :bingung:

siapa yang promosi...?? :)

thonythonythony
June 22, 2006, 10:55
Originally posted by red_conjurer
Tarot hanacaraka-nya mas Eddy udah keluar belom?

launching bulan Juli ini klo gak mundur lagi do... :)

mau pesen..?? :D

asunn
June 22, 2006, 10:57
thon... elo kau experiment udah 2 thn baru go publik( jadi prof..tarot reader)... menurut elo asunn gimana? kira2x belajar 4 bulan boleh ngak?

repot juga nunggu 2 thn hihihi udah keburu tutup kali cafenya....hush! *ketok kayu 3x* hahahahhahah
kira2x ada masukan apa? eh iya...kemaren ke gramed lokal sini...payah... ngak ada buku tarot blehhhh.... malu maluin aja...

asunn

thonythonythony
June 22, 2006, 11:00
Originally posted by asunn
waduh thon elo ada2x aja hehehehhe
justru sekarang di cafe ini banyak celebrity lokal (ada market) heheh bisa dijadiin salah satu additional income bwakakkakak makanya latihan dulu... di bulletin tinggal dipasang aja pengumumannya hihihihhihi

sekali nyebur ke kali...dapet tali pinggang croccodille ;p

selain itu yah gw bersyukur intuisi akhir2x ini makin kencang aja...jadi udah saatnya bermaen2 games tarot bwakakakka

asunn
namaste

owww, jadi itu toh alesannya.. :hehe

pengumuman di bulettin..?? hmm ::mikir:: nyindir gwe niy... :kakaka:

tarot gak hanya modal intuisi aja lho om asunn... :)
selamat mencoba dan belajar yaaa.. {)
sukses selalu...

namaste
thony

asunn
June 22, 2006, 16:43
Originally posted by thonythonythony
owww, jadi itu toh alesannya.. :hehe

pengumuman di bulettin..?? hmm ::mikir:: nyindir gwe niy... :kakaka:

tarot gak hanya modal intuisi aja lho om asunn... :)
selamat mencoba dan belajar yaaa.. {)
sukses selalu...

namaste
thony


weleh ingridients nya belom lengkap toh... semoga ngak nambah resep yg aneh2 lagi ehheheh ...tambah merica dan kecap manis lagi aja yah? weh mesti berguru sama mbah thonny neh...

selain itu...sebenarnya jauh dari money oriented koq brur...gw just kidding :)
asunn akhir2 ini emang lagi demen aja nambah2 ilmu...karena dulunya lebih tidak ke metafisik :) dan sekarang kayanya beda dunia hehehehhehe
sekarang demen kayak reiki, tarot, yoga, mungkin juga kalo bisa buka meditation centre...buat ngumpul2 dan satsang :)

asunn (namaste)

thonythonythony
June 24, 2006, 10:27
Originally posted by asunn
weleh ingridients nya belom lengkap toh... semoga ngak nambah resep yg aneh2 lagi ehheheh ...tambah merica dan kecap manis lagi aja yah? weh mesti berguru sama mbah thonny neh...

selain itu...sebenarnya jauh dari money oriented koq brur...gw just kidding :)
asunn akhir2 ini emang lagi demen aja nambah2 ilmu...karena dulunya lebih tidak ke metafisik :) dan sekarang kayanya beda dunia hehehehhehe
sekarang demen kayak reiki, tarot, yoga, mungkin juga kalo bisa buka meditation centre...buat ngumpul2 dan satsang :)

asunn (namaste)


hehe... :hehe
kpn gwe ksh2 ingridients'nya sunn??? ;D

ada beberapa syarat utk jadi murid, salah satunya TRAKTIR dulu..!!! :kakaka: kiddin' ;D

yang ada gwe yang berguru ma elo sunn.... :D

selamat datang di dunia TAROT, belajar bareng yukkk...... :):)

gladiezt_maniez
June 24, 2006, 16:31
GM juga mo belajar bisa ga?

tapi GM ga pny kekuatan apa gitu.....supranatural....

apa lah ga ngerti......

bisa ga?:haha

thonythonythony
June 25, 2006, 10:55
bisa kok diezt... :)
gak pake kekuatan2 supranatural, dll...
yang penting, bisa berhenti menilai orang, keadaan, dll....

belajar NO MIND dulu... {)
karena selama kita masih menilai, kita akan selalu tergiring kedalam kondisi SUBJEKTIF, belum OBJEKTIF :)

asunn
June 25, 2006, 13:29
GM tanya aja trus...heheheh
/me nguping dari belakang bwakakkakaka

namaste
asunn with (Metta)

ps. got another ingredient :) (no mind)

thonythonythony
June 25, 2006, 13:52
Originally posted by asunn
GM tanya aja trus...heheheh
/me nguping dari belakang bwakakkakaka

namaste
asunn with (Metta)

ps. got another ingredient :) (no mind)

hehe... :hehe
asunn bisa aja yaa.. :D:D

bagus2.... sering2 ya sunn.. {){)
jadi mmg wahyu itu gak selalu dateng langsung ke orang yang membutuhkan...
dia bisa dateng lewat orang lain, melalui masukanNya ke orang lain juga... {){)

thonythonythony
June 25, 2006, 13:53
sunn, testi loe gak berlebihan tuh..??

bisa2 cewek2 pada serem deket2 gwe tuh.... :kakaka:

asunn
June 25, 2006, 15:44
Originally posted by thonythonythony
sunn, testi loe gak berlebihan tuh..??

bisa2 cewek2 pada serem deket2 gwe tuh.... :kakaka:


wah... kalo berlebihan jangan di approve donk thony dodol hehehehe tar gw bikinin lagi.....tadi gw lagi buru2...mungkin kalo banyak waktu ...mungkin bisa bikin yg lebih down to earth :) hihihihihih

asunn

chio
June 28, 2006, 09:21
gua juga pengen belajar thon? ajarin dong.

gladiezt_maniez
June 28, 2006, 13:05
Originally posted by thonythonythony
bisa kok diezt... :)
gak pake kekuatan2 supranatural, dll...
yang penting, bisa berhenti menilai orang, keadaan, dll....

belajar NO MIND dulu... {)
karena selama kita masih menilai, kita akan selalu tergiring kedalam kondisi SUBJEKTIF, belum OBJEKTIF :)


menilai orang thu mengomongn orang ya?

ada yg lain lage?

susah pasti yapz....:haha:)

thonythonythony
June 28, 2006, 15:32
Originally posted by asunn
wah... kalo berlebihan jangan di approve donk thony dodol hehehehe tar gw bikinin lagi.....tadi gw lagi buru2...mungkin kalo banyak waktu ...mungkin bisa bikin yg lebih down to earth :) hihihihihih

asunn


becanda kok sunn.. :hehe

btw, thanks a lot bro! {){)

thonythonythony
June 28, 2006, 15:34
Originally posted by chio
gua juga pengen belajar thon? ajarin dong.


ayoo kita belajar bareng.. :):)

asunn
June 29, 2006, 08:40
Originally posted by gladiezt_maniez
menilai orang thu mengomongn orang ya?

ada yg lain lage?

susah pasti yapz....:haha:)

mungkin maksudnya... jangan keburu ngambil keputusan sebelom meneliti dengan seksama...misalnya ada orang gossipin si A pelit.. langsung percaya aja... dan menilai orang tsb berdasarkan data yang minim...dan juga mungkin kamu hanya menilai dan memberi judgement tipe orang tersebut dalam waktu yang singkat dalam berinteraksi bersama kamu

menilai orang secara objective itu tidak mudah... harus sabar, seiring waktu, dan pengamatan langsung....

itu sekedar contoh hhehhehe
mungkin mbah thony bisa kasih tambahan tambahan lainnya

asunn with (Metta)

thonythonythony
June 29, 2006, 15:00
Originally posted by asunn
mungkin maksudnya... jangan keburu ngambil keputusan sebelom meneliti dengan seksama...misalnya ada orang gossipin si A pelit.. langsung percaya aja... dan menilai orang tsb berdasarkan data yang minim...dan juga mungkin kamu hanya menilai dan memberi judgement tipe orang tersebut dalam waktu yang singkat dalam berinteraksi bersama kamu

menilai orang secara objective itu tidak mudah... harus sabar, seiring waktu, dan pengamatan langsung....

itu sekedar contoh hehehehehe
mungkin mbah thony bisa kasih tambahan tambahan lainnya

asunn with (Metta)

ya sedikit banyak udah dijelasin ma asunn.... {){)

gwe palingan nambahin aja coba gak usah buat penilaian dalam pikiran / mikirin tentang kejadian apapun yang terlihat di depan kita.... entah itu ada hubungan dengan kita, atau tidak...

nyambung gak ya pake kata2 gwa ini..??? ::mikir:: :D:D

asunn
June 30, 2006, 09:35
Originally posted by thonythonythony
....
nyambung gak ya pake kata2 gwa ini..??? ::mikir:: :D:D
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asunn pikir mungkin banyak yang kurang nyambung thon hehheheh coba anda jelaskan pengertian "annata" tetapi lebih menggunakan bahasa yang lebih down to earth :)

red_conjurer
June 30, 2006, 13:50
Gimana cd rom Tarot Magicnya Thon? Asunn mau? si Thony ada tuh. buat ente belajar tatarotan.

thonythonythony
July 04, 2006, 03:43
Originally posted by asunn
asunn pikir mungkin banyak yang kurang nyambung thon hehheheh coba anda jelaskan pengertian "annata" tetapi lebih menggunakan bahasa yang lebih down to earth :)


'annata' ?? :hehe
gak tau tuh.... :D:D

thonythonythony
July 04, 2006, 03:45
Originally posted by red_conjurer
Gimana cd rom Tarot Magicnya Thon? Asunn mau? si Thony ada tuh. buat ente belajar tatarotan.


awesome bro!!! :bravo:

thanks.... {){)

red_conjurer
July 04, 2006, 04:00
Oracle card ama Tarot hampir sama yah brur?

thonythonythony
July 04, 2006, 04:36
beda bro..
jumlahnya sama pemakai'an nya setahu gwe beda.... :)

tapi, intinya hampir sama...

asunn
July 09, 2006, 18:28
Originally posted by red_conjurer
Gimana cd rom Tarot Magicnya Thon? Asunn mau? si Thony ada tuh. buat ente belajar tatarotan.

gw lagi nyari kartu tarot Waite Rider :) biasanya dimulai dari cara2x konventional dulu deh...setelah mahir tar..baru gabung2x softwares... gw termasuk old fashioned learner ;p hehhehehe

di palembang ngak ada jualannya! dududz.... tar pas mampir jakarta semoga ada deh... hehehe

thanks offernya yah mas brewok... i will contact you or thony later about the softwares for sure....

namaste
asunn

asunn
July 09, 2006, 18:29
anyway...apa artinya Major Archana dan Minor Archana???

chio
July 10, 2006, 07:33
hi thon and asun,
boleh minta softwarenya ndak? pingin belajar juga.

thonythonythony
July 10, 2006, 17:29
Originally posted by asunn
anyway...apa artinya Major Archana dan Minor Archana???



The Major Arcarna is seen as a "story" about life. However one interpretes the cards the story has a sense of progression for a person in terms of their development and understanding. It represents transformations - birth, growth, death, rebirth - a cycle which is sometimes known as "the journey of the fool."

intinya, 22 kartu utama (0 s/d 21, the fool s/d the world/universe), MAJOR card'nya dalam TAROT itulah MAJOR ARCARNA, bukan archana.. :)

the rest, MINOR ARCARNA

The Minor Arcarna corresponds to the four suits found in an ordinary pack of cards. They represent different personal attributes and aspects of life.

Cups :
Hearts Emotions, Relationships Spring Water

Staves :
Clubs Actions, Achievements Summer Fire

Swords :
Spades Intellect, Difficulty Autumn Air

Pentacles :
Diamonds Money, Possessions Winter Earth

Across the suits the cards have similarities according to their numbers. They have a sense of progress through life, just as the Major Arcarna does.

The actual way any particular card acts is determined by its suit - i.e. the Three of Cups would indicate firm foundation in family life and the Three of Pentacles would indicate laying down financial plans.

that's all..... {){)

thonythonythony
July 10, 2006, 17:37
Originally posted by chio
hi thon and asun,
boleh minta softwarenya ndak? pingin belajar juga.

udah pernah pegang TAROT??? biasa pake deck apa??

IMHO, klo yang belum paham TAROT, dan belum familiar dengan TAROT, agak susah meng'intreprtasikan/ mengartikan'nya....

gwe aja masih suka mumet.. :bingung:
hehehe... ;D
maklum beginners..... :):)

Raden Mahesa
July 10, 2006, 18:08
pantesan aja gue ga bisa2... karena belum familiar kali ya?
niat pingin masuk rekor MURI dgn tema pembaca tarot teraneh dengan deck gapleh... malah jadi mumet ndiri.... sapi!

thonythonythony
July 10, 2006, 18:35
mmm... ::mikir::
good idea!!! :bravo:

gapleh, asalnya dari mana ya, basic'nya... ::mikir::
klo remi, khan juga pengembangan dari TAROT.... :):)

halah!!! belagak gak familiar, tapi contekan'nya bejibun juga.... dasar! :haha :haha

asunn
July 11, 2006, 07:39
Originally posted by thonythonythony

The Major Arcarna is seen as a "story" about life. However one interpretes the cards the story has a sense of progression for a person in terms of their development and understanding. It represents transformations - birth, growth, death, rebirth - a cycle which is sometimes known as "the journey of the fool."

intinya, 22 kartu utama (0 s/d 21, the fool s/d the world/universe), MAJOR card'nya dalam TAROT itulah MAJOR ARCARNA, bukan archana.. :)

the rest, MINOR ARCARNA

The Minor Arcarna corresponds to the four suits found in an ordinary pack of cards. They represent different personal attributes and aspects of life.

Cups :
Hearts Emotions, Relationships Spring Water

Staves :
Clubs Actions, Achievements Summer Fire

Swords :
Spades Intellect, Difficulty Autumn Air

Pentacles :
Diamonds Money, Possessions Winter Earth

Across the suits the cards have similarities according to their numbers. They have a sense of progress through life, just as the Major Arcarna does.

The actual way any particular card acts is determined by its suit - i.e. the Three of Cups would indicate firm foundation in family life and the Three of Pentacles would indicate laying down financial plans.

that's all..... {){)


thank's thon... it's a good start :)

red_conjurer
July 12, 2006, 06:17
Originally posted by asunn
gw lagi nyari kartu tarot Waite Rider :) biasanya dimulai dari cara2x konventional dulu deh...setelah mahir tar..baru gabung2x softwares... gw termasuk old fashioned learner ;p hehhehehe

di palembang ngak ada jualannya! dududz.... tar pas mampir jakarta semoga ada deh... hehehe

thanks offernya yah mas brewok... i will contact you or thony later about the softwares for sure....

namaste
asunn

itu cd rom pun gw baru liad2 doang belom diotak-atik. kayanya selama ini gw berperilaku sbg pembawa pesan dan melupakan proses pembelajaran gw sendiri.. buktinya itu oracle card yang gw beli sebulan lalu belum gw sentuh2 lagi....

red_conjurer
July 12, 2006, 06:19
Originally posted by chio
hi thon and asun,
boleh minta softwarenya ndak? pingin belajar juga.

ente cari dah di tempat2 CD bajakan di kotamu. di Mangga 2 JKT kayaknya banyak tuh, judulnya Herroscope's Tarot Magic. Kalu di Bandung gw nemu di Azimuth.

chio
July 12, 2006, 09:23
Originally posted by thonythonythony
udah pernah pegang TAROT??? biasa pake deck apa??

IMHO, klo yang belum paham TAROT, dan belum familiar dengan TAROT, agak susah meng'intreprtasikan/ mengartikan'nya....

gwe aja masih suka mumet.. :bingung:
hehehe... ;D
maklum beginners..... :):)


gua belom pernah pegang kartu tarot, biasanya gua sering ke www.tarot.de

porqpig
July 12, 2006, 10:35
Originally posted by thonythonythony
ya sedikit banyak udah dijelasin ma asunn.... {){)

gwe palingan nambahin aja coba gak usah buat penilaian dalam pikiran / mikirin tentang kejadian apapun yang terlihat di depan kita.... entah itu ada hubungan dengan kita, atau tidak...

nyambung gak ya pake kata2 gwa ini..??? ::mikir:: :D:D



Nah lo...gw malah makin bingung. ??????
Bukannya qta malah musti melakukan penilaian2 yah dan pd prinsipnya qta ngga akan pernah bs berhenti berpikir tng hal2 yg terjadi di depan kita? Kan tujuannya mengantisipasi hal2 yg mungkin timbul. ????
Gw sering btk ketemu org & lsg nilai. Ky gw bs ngerasain dia tuh baik ato engga. Bs dipercaya ato engga. Ngga selalu bener, tp mayoritas bener. Gara2 ini gw suka diomelin,kan ktnya ngga blh nilai org dr luarnya,tak kenal maka tak sayang...gitu2 deh...
Tp mayoritas org yg gw nilai 'ngga beres' ya emang gitu deh....
nipu pas bisnis bareng,ato ternyata bajingan ato nyuri...
Gimana dong? Gw jg pengen berenti nilai org ky gitu,krn gw jg ngga baek2 bgt (cuma baek aja).Ngga semua org yg gw temuin lsg gw nilai sih,cuma beberapa aja tp mayoritas selalu negatif. Gimana dong????

asunn
July 12, 2006, 16:19
Originally posted by porqpig
Nah lo...gw malah makin bingung. ??????
Bukannya qta malah musti melakukan penilaian2 yah dan pd prinsipnya qta ngga akan pernah bs berhenti berpikir tng hal2 yg terjadi di depan kita? Kan tujuannya mengantisipasi hal2 yg mungkin timbul. ????
Gw sering btk ketemu org & lsg nilai. Ky gw bs ngerasain dia tuh baik ato engga. Bs dipercaya ato engga. Ngga selalu bener, tp mayoritas bener. Gara2 ini gw suka diomelin,kan ktnya ngga blh nilai org dr luarnya,tak kenal maka tak sayang...gitu2 deh...
Tp mayoritas org yg gw nilai 'ngga beres' ya emang gitu deh....
nipu pas bisnis bareng,ato ternyata bajingan ato nyuri...
Gimana dong? Gw jg pengen berenti nilai org ky gitu,krn gw jg ngga baek2 bgt (cuma baek aja).Ngga semua org yg gw temuin lsg gw nilai sih,cuma beberapa aja tp mayoritas selalu negatif. Gimana dong????

mungkin menurut pendapat pribadi saya yah..

maksud thony tuh...jangan menilai orang laen dulu...setelah bisa menilai siapa diri kita dan bagaimana perkembangan kita sendiri... getu loh...
kalo semua orang udah se-suci kaya Jesus mungkin baru boleh menilai orang laen hehehheh

kalo belom...coba jangan dulu deh... lebih banyak mengamati dulu aja.... getu loh

*bener ngak thon? hihihihi *siap2 pentungan...

asunn
with Metta

ShivaShEeN
July 13, 2006, 14:41
tarot bacaan gw selalu bener .. padahal gw hanya menginterpretasikannya (bener ga ni tulisan) .. sesuai dengan hati gw. eh kejadian..huehuaehuaheae...
tarot deck gw ada banyak..ada yg mo beli ga? 1 deck .. Rp.150rb deh:D eh..ni bukan forum jual beli ya..maap.

Don Carleone
July 14, 2006, 04:51
Originally posted by si mahesa
pantesan aja gue ga bisa2... karena belum familiar kali ya?
niat pingin masuk rekor MURI dgn tema pembaca tarot teraneh dengan deck gapleh... malah jadi mumet ndiri.... sapi!

Untuk meramal pake Kartu Gapleh anda harus mengetahui simbol-simbol dari kartu yang ada.
Mulai dari : Balak kosong, terus ke balak enam.
Terus sisa kartu yang ada.

rubymoon
July 14, 2006, 12:48
hi... aku mw nanya..
aku punya kartu tarot, jumlah seluruhnya 78 lembar, entah sejak kapan hilang 4 lembar, dan semuanya arcana mayor... gmn?

tapi anehnya, 2 bln terakhir, sejak kartu itu hilang, tiap aku ramalin temen2ku, pasti jadi kejadian beneran. aku baru sadar ada 4 lembar kartu ilang bbrp minggu lalu. aku blinya cukup murah kok, di malaysia kalo diitung rp, 75000.

thonythonythony
July 14, 2006, 13:08
Originally posted by asunn
thank's thon... it's a good start :)

sama2.. sunn.... {){) semoga berguna bagi dirimu... dan lingkunganmu... :)

gudLak..!!! :bravo:

thonythonythony
July 14, 2006, 13:19
Originally posted by chio
gua belom pernah pegang kartu tarot, biasanya gua sering ke www.tarot.de

ic..ic.... :)

thonythonythony
July 14, 2006, 13:30
Originally posted by asunn
mungkin menurut pendapat pribadi saya yah..

maksud thony tuh...jangan menilai orang laen dulu...setelah bisa menilai siapa diri kita dan bagaimana perkembangan kita sendiri... getu loh...
kalo semua orang udah se-suci kaya Jesus mungkin baru boleh menilai orang laen hehehheh

kalo belom...coba jangan dulu deh... lebih banyak mengamati dulu aja.... getu loh

*bener ngak thon? hihihihi *siap2 pentungan...

asunn
with Metta

idem... :)

thonythonythony
July 14, 2006, 13:40
Originally posted by ShivaShEeN
tarot bacaan gw selalu bener .. padahal gw hanya menginterpretasikannya (bener ga ni tulisan) .. sesuai dengan hati gw. eh kejadian..huehuaehuaheae...
tarot deck gw ada banyak..ada yg mo beli ga? 1 deck .. Rp.150rb deh:D eh..ni bukan forum jual beli ya..maap.


ya mmg tarot begitu, basicnya, menginterpretasikan apa yang ter'babar aja...

lha wong judulnya TAROT READER, bukan TAROT THINKER.... :D:D

deck apa aja yang dilelang..?? :)

thonythonythony
July 14, 2006, 13:45
Originally posted by rubymoon
hi... aku mw nanya..
aku punya kartu tarot, jumlah seluruhnya 78 lembar, entah sejak kapan hilang 4 lembar, dan semuanya arcana mayor... gmn?

tapi anehnya, 2 bln terakhir, sejak kartu itu hilang, tiap aku ramalin temen2ku, pasti jadi kejadian beneran. aku baru sadar ada 4 lembar kartu ilang bbrp minggu lalu. aku blinya cukup murah kok, di malaysia kalo diitung rp, 75000.


yahhh.... klo kurang dah gak bisa dipake tuh....
namanya TAROT ya 78 kartu dunk.... :):)
klo murah,beli aja lagi.. khan murah... :D

di malaysia, bahasa melayu apa inggris tarotnya..??
soalnya di china, khan pake bahasa china gtu, di translate, gilingannn... :haha

thonythonythony
July 14, 2006, 13:57
Originally posted by Don Carleone
Untuk meramal pake Kartu Gapleh anda harus mengetahui simbol-simbol dari kartu yang ada.
Mulai dari : Balak kosong, terus ke balak enam.
Terus sisa kartu yang ada.


nah... itu ada caranya, hayoo jelasin mas don... :D:D

ch1m0x
July 18, 2006, 04:23
Hmm .. gew anak baru disini, juga mau nanya2 ajah ..

Pengen blajar n beli kartu tarot .. Harganya kira2 brapaan .. Itu beli lsg dapet 1 set komplit ato kdu beli 1-1 ? dan untuk pemula biasanya pake kartu apa ? ada manualnya nggak ?

m0x biasanya main2 gt pk kartu remi, yah emang bisa sih, cuman nggak terlalu akurat, dan m0x walaupun nggak pake kartu juga kadang bisa tau kejadian apa yg akan terjadi (masa depan) , kayak dpet pandangan gitu, dan kebanyakan benernya

dan m0x bisa baca yg dipikirin ama orang lain (termasuk ngebuka masa lalu orang lain dan berbicara dngan "benda halus") .. nggak tau sejak kapan, yg jelas pingin ngasah tuh kemampuan

tapi, masih takut juga kalo liat yg macem2 (untung "blur" kalo lsg wujud asli .. hii ..)

ada yg mo bantu nggak ?

Farfalla
July 18, 2006, 04:58
pengeen banget bisa di ramal pake kartu tarot
tapi ditempatku kayaknya gak ada tuh ( semarang )
ada yang tau gak, kalo disemarang tempatnya dimana?

tolong kasih infonya yaaa

thonythonythony
July 18, 2006, 09:28
Originally posted by ch1m0x
Hmm .. gew anak baru disini, juga mau nanya2 ajah ..




silahkan.... :)
selamat datang.... {)
saya juga anak baru kok.... :):)
thanks for mail me.... {)



Pengen blajar n beli kartu tarot .. Harganya kira2 brapaan .. Itu beli lsg dapet 1 set komplit ato kdu beli 1-1 ? dan untuk pemula biasanya pake kartu apa ? ada manualnya nggak ?


harga mulai dari 198 (klo gak salah) untuk deck rider white.. :)
1 set komplit 1 jenis deck...
bisa pake rider white...
atau tarot wayang utk yang lokal..
ada manualnya kok...





m0x biasanya main2 gt pk kartu remi, yah emang bisa sih, cuman nggak terlalu akurat, dan m0x walaupun nggak pake kartu juga kadang bisa tau kejadian apa yg akan terjadi (masa depan) , kayak dpet pandangan gitu, dan kebanyakan benernya

dan m0x bisa baca yg dipikirin ama orang lain (termasuk ngebuka masa lalu orang lain dan berbicara dngan "benda halus") .. nggak tau sejak kapan, yg jelas pingin ngasah tuh kemampuan

tapi, masih takut juga kalo liat yg macem2 (untung "blur" kalo lsg wujud asli .. hii ..)


pake remi juga gpp... khan remi juga salah satu turunan dari TAROT.. :)

bisa baca pikiran?? ::mikir::
ce' gwe lagi mikir apa ya sekarang?? :hehe

wah hebat deh kamu... :bravo:

thonythonythony
July 18, 2006, 09:34
Originally posted by Farfalla
pengeen banget bisa di ramal pake kartu tarot
tapi ditempatku kayaknya gak ada tuh ( semarang )
ada yang tau gak, kalo disemarang tempatnya dimana?

tolong kasih infonya yaaa


ada kenalan thony yang pegang TAROT, apakah dia sudah siap utk membaca TAROT, saya belum tau tapi bisa dicoba....

silahkan contact ferry : +628179554640
bilang saja kenal dari thony, bandung... :)

ch1m0x
July 19, 2006, 04:51
thony .. 1 deck itu major minor arkana nya gitu ya ? komplit 70-an kartu ?

kalo yg rider white itu .. manual nya bhs inggris ato gimana ?

deck dsini maksudnya = jenis kartu gitu yah ?

thonythonythony
July 21, 2006, 09:36
1 deck terdiri dari Major dan Minor Arcarna... 78 card :)

Manual Tarot in English semua...
kecuali TAROT WAYANG...

deck = kartu :)
misal : deck rider white, deck THOTH, deck Morgan Greer, Deck Dragon tarot, dll..... :):)

sultan-seth
July 21, 2006, 17:05
om thony aku juga pengen belajar tarot

om mau tanya memangnya ada beda yah antara kartu oracle dan kartu tarot

soale ada kartu yang notabene nulis oracle, kaya fairy oracle dan angel oracle, lokal juga ada kartu oracle nya anand krishna kalau nda salah......jumlanya juga nga 78 card melainkan 100 card ....

tebarannya 1 , 3 dan 5 ..... di bilang sih kartu oracle hanya untuk kebijaksanaan yang punya kartu aja , tpi aku eksperimen sendiri bisa juga ternyata di pake ke orang lain....hasilnya jga cukup bikin orang merinding karena tepat....

bener nga sih om thony ...mang beda yah kartu oracle dan tarot .

trus soal warna dan gambar.....kalau intuisi mengkaitkan dengan warna dan gambar , banyak kan kan cukup simbol aja...itu gimana yah om thony kan tiap kartu beda....mang nya waktu di beli bisa liat warna2 deck nya atau gamabr2nya ???

trus denger2 yang mau beli harus liat dulu sinkron nga yah dengan kamu , ada kalanya kartu nya bisa bikin sesak nafas si pemakai , itu beneran nga ?

ajarin yah plissss..... buta nih aku [thanks]

thonythonythony
July 25, 2006, 11:08
wah, banyak juga ya pertanyaan'nya.... hehehe.... :D:D

1. Bedanya oracle,dengan TAROT :
ORACLE adalah MAJOR ARCARNA'nya saja dari TAROT, kalau jumlahnya lebih dari 22, itu ada pengembangan tersendiri....

2. kalau ditanya beda apa gak antara TAROT dengan ORACLE, ya beda.... :)

3. gak semua pake intuisi kok.... :)
karena bisa dipelajari dari maksud dan arti dari tiap2 kartu...
untuk advanced, mungkin intuisi baru bisa jalan... :)
dengan tujuan, setiap orang yang ingin belajar tarot gak keburu nge'drop, karena mereka pikir TAROT hanya bisa dipelajari buat yang punya intuisi... padahal gak juga.... {){)

4. Di beberapa toko, ada yang bisa dibuka, dan bisa kita lihat dalem decknya...

5. Itu gak benar.... :)

Catatan : Semua penjelasan diatas terlepas dari seluruh unsur Supranatural yang dikandung oleh kartu TAROT... jadi kita melihat dari sisi manusiawinya saja... :):)

asunn
July 26, 2006, 15:45
baru balik dari jkt dan bandung...sempet mampir di Plaza Senayan...di Kinokuniya ...beli tarot deck
The Rider - Waite Tarot Deck dan Morgan - Greer Tarot Deck
belom sempet buka dari kemaren kekekek

eh thon...yg Morgan sama Rider beda dimana? persamaan dan perbedaannya?

thonythonythony
July 26, 2006, 16:28
beda namanya.. :hehe

kiddin' ;D

MORGAN GREER tuh, sebenarnya hampir sama dengan RAIDER WHITE kok...
cuma tampilan dan jenisnya aja yang berbeda, karakter energinya juga lumayan kok sunn, tapi aman.... :)

ch1m0x
July 26, 2006, 16:44
brapaan tuh di PS ? besok khan m0x mo ke jkt .. skalian mampir beli deh ...

thony .. mending kalo pemula beli yg mana bung ??

thonythonythony
July 26, 2006, 16:51
RAIDER WHITE aja, soalnya mudah dan gampang bwt belajar.... :)

tapi kabar terakhir, abis yang standar deck'nya.. small atau big size juga gpp kok... sama aja.... :)

sekitar IDR 198.000 buat yang RAIDER WHITE...

ch1m0x
July 26, 2006, 19:27
ada manualnya toh bung ? ya uwis .. nanti beli ^^ .. acik acik ..

thonythonythony
July 28, 2006, 11:47
ya ada kok... :)
in english....

asunn
July 29, 2006, 10:46
ribet juga thon pake bhs inggris ;p
itu thon...significatornya di balik kelihatan yah terbuka di gaya celtic cross...trus kartu ke-6 posisinya nimpukin significator donk? (ada 2 kartu di posisi yg sama)*bingung... lagi belajar Morgan - Greer ...kemaren kelinci percubaannya si uwi bwakkakakkakakaka

trus koq di gambar denahnya ...di tulis Significator = No.1

asunn
August 01, 2006, 06:55
hehehe udah ketemu problemnya thon... ternyata emang perlu banyak praktek...jadi satu persatu permasalahannya bisa terselesaikan heheheheh.... terasa banget...setelah mendapatkan kelinci percobaan ke 4 ...skill gw improve...

namaste
asunn