malaikatbaru
May 24, 2004, 13:30
kenapa ya agama Yahudi gak gitu berkembang dan banyak penganutnya..bahkan dibanding Hindu dan Buddha. apa krn orang takut dibunuh Hitler dan kasus Israel ?
ap ir uy
May 24, 2004, 13:35
bukan, karena itu berdasarkan keturunan.
di Abodah Zarah (kalouw nggak salah), dijelaskan SELAIN YAHUDI ADALAH BINATANG!
ap ir uy
May 24, 2004, 13:38
lucu tetapi bagi mereka ini serius : mereka sekarang lagi nanem suatu pohon dimana mereka akan bersembunyi dibelakangnya suatu saat nanti. Bagi yang bisa nebak nama pohon dan fungsinya, saya beri 45 GP.
alan_smithee
May 24, 2004, 13:46
Originally posted by ap ir uy
bukan, karena itu berdasarkan keturunan.
di Abodah Zarah (kalouw nggak salah), dijelaskan SELAIN YAHUDI ADALAH BINATANG!
bukannya di afrika juga ada black jews?
coqueline
May 24, 2004, 13:47
Agama Yahudi adalah salah satu agama (seperti halnya Kristen Orthodox Yunani) yg diturunkan lewat kelahiran, bukan konversi. Udah begitu seseorang dianggap Yahudi lewat jalur ibu pula (elo Yahudi kalo nyokap loe Yahudi bukannya bokap loe). Dan kelihatannya mereka sendiri ga gitu antusias kok nyebar2in agama meraka ke kalangan luar Yahudi.
Arsp, tumben loe biasanya kalem2 bak malaikat sekarang mulai jadi belajar jadi bigot... apa karena emang mulai muncul aslinya yah? :o
QM03Grwn
May 24, 2004, 14:50
bukan, karena itu berdasarkan keturunan.
di Abodah Zarah (kalouw nggak salah), dijelaskan SELAIN YAHUDI ADALAH BINATANG!.
Apa itu bukan dari protokol zionis? Apa protokol zionis ini dilaksanakan juga sama penganut agama yahudi???
Originally posted by ap ir uy
lucu tetapi bagi mereka ini serius : mereka sekarang lagi nanem suatu pohon dimana mereka akan bersembunyi dibelakangnya suatu saat nanti. Bagi yang bisa nebak nama pohon dan fungsinya, saya beri 45 GP.
pohon ghorqod/ghardad ya.
Gunanya buat sembunyi para yahudi dari serangan kaum muslim ya.
ap ir uy
May 24, 2004, 22:09
Originally posted by QM03Grwn
Apa itu bukan dari protokol zionis? Apa protokol zionis ini dilaksanakan juga sama penganut agama yahudi???
ada di kitab Talmud.
pohon ghorqod/ghardad ya.
Gunanya buat sembunyi para yahudi dari serangan kaum muslim ya.
sip, 45 GP meluncur.
hansel
May 25, 2004, 10:31
Oriental Beauty yg sering mondar-mandir di forum ini tuh penganut Judaism, jadi sebaiknya tanya ke yg bersangkutan sebelon bikin pernyataan-pernyataan mengenai Judaism yg mungkin jauh dari kebenaran.
hansel
May 25, 2004, 10:33
Aneh sekali jika sampe bikin pernyataan ttg kepercayaan org lain menurut kepercayaan sendiri
Lady Synthesizer
May 25, 2004, 10:38
Originally posted by ap ir uy
bukan, karena itu berdasarkan keturunan.
di Abodah Zarah (kalouw nggak salah), dijelaskan SELAIN YAHUDI ADALAH BINATANG!
lucu tetapi bagi mereka ini serius : mereka sekarang lagi nanem suatu pohon dimana mereka akan bersembunyi dibelakangnya suatu saat nanti. Bagi yang bisa nebak nama pohon dan fungsinya, saya beri 45 GP.
tolong konfirmasi kebenarannya dgn orang yang menganut kepercayaan ini sebelum menyatakan "kebenaran" yg anda percaya tentang kepercayaan ini!
gratispisan
May 25, 2004, 22:46
The Talmud teaches many evil things including:
1) Moed Kattan 17a: "If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there."
2) Erubin 21b. "Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell."
3) Sanhedrin 58b. "If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed."
4) Sanhedrin 57a . "A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work."
5) Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
6) Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
7) Sanhedrin 57a . "When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep."
8) Baba Kamma 37b. "The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
9) Baba Kamma 113a. "Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile."
10) Yebamoth 98a. "All gentile children are animals."
11) Abodah Zarah 36b. "Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth."
12) Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . "Gentiles prefer sex with cows."
13) Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters."
14) Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
15) Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."
16) Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
17) Sanhedrin 43a "He (Jesus Christ) and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship
18) Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a "He (Jesus Christ) was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent
19) Shabbos 104b "He (Jesus Christ) learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible. (See http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm)
20) Sanhedrin 43a. [b]Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery:
gratispisan
May 25, 2004, 22:46
The Talmud teaches many evil things including:
1) Moed Kattan 17a: "If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there."
2) Erubin 21b. "Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell."
3) Sanhedrin 58b. "If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed."
4) Sanhedrin 57a . "A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work."
5) Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
6) Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
7) Sanhedrin 57a . "When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep."
8) Baba Kamma 37b. "The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
9) Baba Kamma 113a. "Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile."
10) Yebamoth 98a. "All gentile children are animals."
11) Abodah Zarah 36b. "Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth."
12) Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . "Gentiles prefer sex with cows."
13) Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters."
14) Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
15) Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."
16) Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
17) Sanhedrin 43a "He (Jesus Christ) and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship
18) Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a "He (Jesus Christ) was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent
19) Shabbos 104b "He (Jesus Christ) learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible. (See http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm)
20) Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
21) Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).
22) Rosh Hashanah 17a. "Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations."
23) Sanhedrin 90a. "Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come."
24) Shabbath 116a. "Jews must destroy the books of the Christians", i.e. the New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
25) Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
26) Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
27) Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
28) Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
29) Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
30) Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
31) Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
32) Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
33) Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.
34) Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
35) Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews. (Also cf. Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).
36) Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog("Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed").
This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the reading has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens" (Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].
Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
37) In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof of the sub-human status of gentiles. It also teaches that anyone (even a Jewish man) who reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews deserves death, since revealing it makes Gentiles wrathful and causes the repression of Judaism.
38) The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a restricts the duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.
gak ngerti gw ...
itu atas ajaran mana ya ??
what the hell is "Talmud" ?
dari kitab paan ?